Steve Yuroff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> That's the first report I've had of the spamlist.org database bouncing 
> mail from a legit source.

Well, they blocked my entire /24 network at PacBell.  These addresses
are quite static and I'm not aware of any spammers being on it.
 
> Are you saying that spamlist.org and the add-in rulesets I'm using are 
> crap?  They seemed to be useful, legit tools to me, but I'm here to 
> learn.  If it's to be avoided, I'm all for it.

I'm saying if you have a performance problem, start with the default
installation and see if it has a performance problem before you start
trying to optimize things.
 
> My understanding was that the spamlist.org list would cut my processing 
> load at the MTA level... isn't it easier to not accept the mail, than 
> to accept it and then process it for ham/spam?

Yes and no.

First, it's very easy to reject messages.  You can get no spam (and not
necessarily many complaints since nobody will be able to mail you) if
you bounce most everything.

Second, most MTAs probably don't do as good a job handling DNS
blacklists that are down, so it could be actually slower.  It's
definitely not as accurate as I discovered.

Let me be blunt, when I reply to a question on a mailing list and I get
a bounce, I'm not going to be very happy about it and I'm going to call
your configuration some well-deserved bad names.  I don't know much
about spamlist.org, but I'm not impressed so far.  My IP isn't listed on
a single spam blacklist listed at <http://www.moensted.dk/spam/> or
<http://www.declude.com/Junkmail/support/ip4r.htm>.  (I have seen it
listed on one PacBell blacklist that lists every PacBell IP.)

Fortunately, the SpamAssassin developers have been testing DNS
blacklists for years and include the very best ones in SA, scoring them
with a score optimizer to reduce false positives.

Daniel

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Daniel Quinlan                     anti-spam (SpamAssassin), Linux,
http://www.pathname.com/~quinlan/    and open source consulting

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