On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 10:16:13AM -0800, Mark C. Langston wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 09:18:10AM -0800, Dan Wilder wrote:
> > 
> > But who also want, or will soon want, to be free of the burden of 
> > exponentially increasing spam.  The two objectives cannot both be attained.
> > 
> 
> 
> So, your position is that we should surrender the liberties we now enjoy
> for additional security?   A large part of me says that the two need not
> be mutually exclusive.

That isn't my position.  

My position is there's no prior reason to assume there is no tradeoff.  
In some cases, certainly there isn't.  In the cases where a tradeoff
is present, what may be acceptable is always a legitimate subject for 
discussion.

However this thread has gone on for an awful long time, and is 
at this point very far off-topic.  I've said my piece and will
now be quiet.

-- 
Dan Wilder

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