>-----Original Message-----
>From: Andy Jezierski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 2:02 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Bayes Poison detection
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>"Jeremy Kister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 
>05/17/2004
>12:07:43 AM:
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>> As we've all been getting a lot more spam containing bayes 
>poison, i was
>> pondering a way to detect it.
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>> I was thinking:
>> 20+ words (50+ words?)
>> no numbers, newline, comma or period
>> same case ?
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>> the simple rule:
>> rawbody BAYES_POISON_01    /([a-z]+\s+){20}/
>> seems to do the trick
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>> can someone test this against a good corpus to see if it's a good
>indicator
>> or not ?
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>> If it is a good indicator, then not only could it add 
>points, but perhaps
>> the sa-learn process could ignore messages (or a part of the 
>messages)
>which
>> match.
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>> Jeremy Kister
>> http://jeremy.kister.net/
>> Argus:  The World's Most Advanced Monitoring Software:
>> http://argus.tcp4me.com/
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>My bayes likes poison!!  Yum, yum, yum.
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>I don't think the poisoning is doing a bit of good.  Most of my spam is
>flagged with Bayes_99 with no FP's.
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>Andy

SARE had done some experiments with a custom eval that would also check for
20-50 words without "tie in" words like :
a, at, is, the, of, on, that, have, had, and,.......

It had mixed results. We moved on because we also felt that bayes poison was
useless. Maybe Ninja 'F' will take a look at it again. 

Chris Santerre 
System Admin and SARE Ninja
http://www.rulesemporium.com
'It is not the strongest of the species that survives,
not the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change.'
Charles Darwin 

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