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>Subject: RE: Spamd eating memory till a system crash no ardchinve
>solutionsfound.
>
>
>-> -----Original Message-----
>-> From: Chr. von Stuckrad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>-> Behalf Of Chr. von Stuckrad
>-> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 10:18 AM
>-> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>-> Subject: Re: Spamd eating memory till a system crash no 
>-> ardchinve solutionsfound.
>-> 
>-> 
>-> On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 02:53:01PM +0000, Tim Philip wrote:
>-> > >  PID USER     PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM   
>-> TIME CPU COMMAND
>-> > >21539 nobody    15   0  359M 118M   220 D     0.0 15.7   
>-> 5:53   0 spamd
>-> 
>-> OUTCH!  >300M is really heavy footprint.
>-> 
>-> The only time something like that hit me, was a combination 
>-> of 'endless' (unbounded?) pattern in a selfmade rule and 
>-> 'large Mails' (I explicitely allowed 10M mails to be checked),
>-> 
>-> Check for any selfmade rules, that result in[1]:
>-> 
>->    (something)*
>-> --------------^
>-> instead of
>-> 
>->    (something){in,max}
>-> ------------------^^^^
>-> 
>-> and change the '*' into something with a reasonalble maximum length.
>-> 
>-> After fixing this, and allowing for only maximal 5M mails,
>-> my spamd went down to 21M and is now after many new 
>-> SARE-Rules added near 30M each child. (It went to >50 <60 
>-> with the new BIG bigeval, but then I changed to 'SURBL's).
>-> 
>-> Stucki
>-> 
>-> [1]  Those unbounded Patterns can of course be something small
>->      like a simple '.*' or as big as a long 'bracketed' rule
>->      with an '*' at the end.    Also a lot of different
>->      'unfactorized' alternatives '(.1.|.2.|.....)?' and other
>->      such 'complications' can bloat the spamd.
>-> 
>->      Every time a rule *possibly* needs to come back to a
>->      'former state of affairs' to recheck something, a big
>->      memory allocation is done and saved for a while...
>-> 
>->      And this 'multiplies' (or eponetiates?) with the length
>->      of the checked mail, because it is seeh as a whole long
>->      string (and not a number of lines!).
>
>
>This is done with default canned rule.  Most of the time spamy works
>correctly but it somehow decides to eat everything in sight. I 
>have looked
>in the queues at the msgs and found nothing strange about them 
>or they are
>cc'ed to 5-10 people here.  I can't keep the server running 
>for any length
>of time because it keeps doing the above top output. Also my 
>sa is set to
>768k message size
>
>Any ideas

You are saying a default install of SA is running over 350 megs?! Something
is seriously wrong with the install. Remove and reinstall it. Possibly
install SA 3.0-pre2. 

--Chris

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