>
> Yes. However, this is becoming a marketing ploy. ISP's are competing by
> making claims for the amount of spam that they block. Judging from the
> Verizon forum (subscribers can opt in or out of spam filtering) users expect
> that the Spam handling is some form of digital magic. While the DNSBL may be
> clear, who's to say that the responsible party at the ISP is clear.
> Ultimately, though, it's the user that is affected and information to that
> level is very esoteric.


All flippant commentary about Verizon aside, I certainly agree with you that
ISPs should be very open and clear about their filtering methods.  


>
>>
>> More precisely, the mailserver your message was gated to is creating the
>> unwanted email.  
>
>
> I'm referring to On-Line posts. No mail intervention that I know of. Frankly,
> I found it rather humorous.


Something must be gating the messages to email, if I understand the issue
correctly.

[filtering: threat or menace]

>
> I'd like to know your ideas in the alternative. If I had the time, I would
> start a boycott campaign If spamming cost more in lost sales than what is
> gained it might decrease (it will never stop). Whatever people try to do
> between the spammer and the ISPs is probably just the work-around du jour.
> Pattern filters DO work (well they work for me) and they are very low
> maintenance. Of course getting rid of "Three Teen Virgins Tow Goats and a
> Donkey" is one thing; I certainly sympathize with any network administrator
> that has to deal with this on a professional level.


I'll try not to reminisce about The Old Internet any more on this forum, but I
remember a time when spammers were disconnected on the first offense almost
everywhere on the planet.  

My solution would be to ban spam and make it both a tort and a crime.

Pattern filters might work on an individual user basis, but (assuming they're
implemented on the MUA and not on the server) they miss at least 90% of the
direct costs of spam.  Filtering is an arms race, and it seems to me that the
spammers are winning.


Mike
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RMS Business Systems                  (847)215-1661 x224

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