I am also interested in using proteome discoverer results data with TPP. PD
has an export fonction to pepxml format but the files exported are not
readable with TPP... I managed to modify these files so that they can be
readable but they miss some information: deltaCN and spRank, which, I
suppose, are required for the peptideProphet analysis...
Thus, I wonder how to import proteome discover results into TPP.



2013/11/15 <[email protected]>

>   Today's Topic Summary
>
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/spctools-discuss/topics
>
>    - xargs:cannot fork? <#1425d9a3358ed4af_group_thread_0> [3 Updates]
>    - TPP on cluster - Petunia running 
> remotely?<#1425d9a3358ed4af_group_thread_1>[4 Updates]
>    - error with installing TPP4.5.2 <#1425d9a3358ed4af_group_thread_2> [6
>    Updates]
>    - sequest and tpp <#1425d9a3358ed4af_group_thread_3> [1 Update]
>
>   xargs:cannot 
> fork?<http://groups.google.com/group/spctools-discuss/t/686c516a6011a30f>
>
>    user1 <[email protected]> Nov 15 08:14AM -0800
>
>    Hello!
>    I am running the sequest search. I have read that the search can be
>    really
>    long, but I cannot see any progress in the command line since few
>    hours
>    (attached below), but it is mentioned that: "this command is still
>    running"
>    and there is no error that command failed. Is it as it suppose to be?
>
>    thank you
>
>    RUNSEARCH
>    Written by J.Eng (c) 2000
>    TPP v4.6 OCCUPY rev 3, Build 201307241109 (MinGW)
>
>    MzXML2Search -dta -P15 Bladder-cancer-side-wall-BCa09.mzML
>
>    output mode selected: SEQUEST DTA format
>    MzXML2Search - SEQUEST DTA format
>
>    Reading Bladder-cancer-side-wall-BCa09.mzML
>    Getting the index offset
>    Reading the index
>    Scan 1 000% 2 000% 3 000% 4
>    000% ......
>    Done.
>
>    mod g+w Bladder-cancer-side-wall-BCa09; cp
>    c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/parameters/sequest.params
>    Bladder-cancer-side-wall-BCa09
>    cd Bladder-cancer-side-wall-BCa09; find . -maxdepth 1 -depth -name
>    "Bladder-cancer-side-wall-BCa09*.dta" -print | xargs --max-args=50
>    c:/xcalibur/system/programs/bioworksbrowser/sequest.exe
>    -Pc:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/parameters/sequest.params
>    xargs: cannot fork
>
>
>
>    W dniu środa, 8 lipca 2009 19:26:18 UTC+3 użytkownik Ali napisał:
>
>
>
>
>    Joseph Slagel <[email protected]> Nov 15 09:00AM -0800
>
>    It sounds like a resource problem, you might be exceeding the
>    capabilities
>    of the system you are on. Do you have a lot of applications/processes
>    running? How many spectrum files are in the directory
>    Bladder-cancer-side-wall-BCa09 and what kind of run is this? And what
>    version of Windows/TPP are you using?
>
>    -Joe
>
>
>
>
>    --
>    Joe Slagel
>    Institute for Systems Biology
>    [email protected]
>    (206) 732-1362
>
>
>
>
>    user1 <[email protected]> Nov 15 09:18AM -0800
>
>    Hi Joe!
>
>    Thank you for the prompt reply. Yes, indeed there is a problem with
>    the
>    run.
>    "This command was deemed to have timed-out on the server as per user
>    input. "
>
>    I was running two files in the same time, however, before I have
>    started
>    the second one, the status from the first was exactly as I have sent.
>
>    I have the WIndows 7 and the latest version of TPP: 4.6.3. I have run
>    previousy this data with Proteome Discoverer (sequest) and I have
>    around
>    52 000 spectra. This was the LC-MS/MS run, 8 hours gradient.
>
>    Thank you in advance!
>
>
>    W dniu środa, 8 lipca 2009 19:26:18 UTC+3 użytkownik Ali napisał:
>
>
>
>   TPP on cluster - Petunia running 
> remotely?<http://groups.google.com/group/spctools-discuss/t/9203bbd8bf4c6bf7>
>
>    Joshua Dunham <[email protected]> Nov 11 08:07AM -0800
>
>    Hi Everyone,
>
>    TPP has been successfully installed on my cluster and am now trying to
>    get Petunia up. I'd like to run petunia as a remote process, not on
>    the
>    cluster; is this possible?
>
>    -Josh
>
>
>
>
>    Joseph Slagel <[email protected]> Nov 11 09:54AM -0800
>
>    Josh,
>
>    Its easily possible to run it as a remote process, not on the cluster.
>    The
>    trick of course is having it actually run jobs on the cluster. And I
>    just
>    recently did some work to make this a little easier. Which clustering
>    software do you use?
>
>    -Joe
>
>
>
>
>    --
>    Joe Slagel
>    Institute for Systems Biology
>    [email protected]
>    (206) 732-1362
>
>
>
>
>    Gary Smith <[email protected]> Nov 12 07:25AM -0800
>
>    We're using UNIVA Grid Engine (aka. SGE).
>
>    --g
>
>
>
>
>    Joseph Slagel <[email protected]> Nov 13 02:24PM -0800
>
>    Gary/Josh,
>
>    That's good to hear since we're using the last open source version of
>    SGE
>    and the commands should all be similar. Recently I've made to the
>    Petunia
>    web interface (tpp_gui.pl) that should also work for you. What I've
>    done
>    is made two simple modifications The first will prepend the "qrsh" to
>    the
>    list of commands. That way the commands are submitted to the cluster
>    instead of running locally on the web server. The second (and more
>    controversial) change does yet another prepend to the command list,
>    this
>    time using "sudo" to switch to the logged in user. Since Petunia
>    already
>    has a undocumented feature that allows you to change its authentication
>    mechanism (we happen to use this to use LDAP to authenticate our TPP
>    users) this then allows one to make sure jobs are submitted as the
>    appropriate user.
>
>    I've tested this out on our development systems here at ISB and it
>    seems to
>    work pretty well. We haven't deployed it into production yet for as you
>    can imagine the security implications of having a CGI script using
>    sudo and
>    being tied to a cluster are significant. We do intend to eventually
>    roll
>    some solution like this but only after we can change our current system
>    configuration. (Our IT wants to ensure the web server node is locked
>    down
>    and strictly controlled before they'll let any program use sudo so
>    freely).
>
>    If your interested I could share the code with you now -- or you can
>    wait
>    until we release 4.7 which will have said hooks in place with hopefully
>    some documentation.
>
>    -Joe
>
>
>
>
>    --
>    Joe Slagel
>    Institute for Systems Biology
>    [email protected]
>    (206) 732-1362
>
>
>
>   error with installing 
> TPP4.5.2<http://groups.google.com/group/spctools-discuss/t/4d4377eff96e8b5d>
>
>    [email protected] Nov 10 07:44PM -0800
>
>    Hi,
>
>    I am installing TPP4.5.2 on my CentOS. I got the following message
>    when
>    compiling:
>
>    mkdir -p /software/TPP-4.5.2/src/../build/CentOS-x86_64
>    make -C ../extern/xtandem/src
>    TANDEM_PARAMETERS_INSTALL_DIR="/usr/local/tpp/bin/"
>    SRC_ROOT="/software/TPP-4.5.2/src/" ARCH=CentOS-x86_64
>    BUILD_DIR=/software/TPP-4.5.2/src/../build/CentOS-x86_64
>    EXPAT_LIB=/software/TPP-4.5.2/src/../build/CentOS-x86_64/libexpat.a
>    ZLIB_INCL="" ZLIB_LIB="-lz "
>
>    USER_OBJS="/software/TPP-4.5.2/src/../build/CentOS-x86_64/TPPVersionInfo.o"
>    make[1]: Entering directory `/software/TPP-4.5.2/extern/xtandem/src'
>    make[1]: Leaving directory `/software/TPP-4.5.2/extern/xtandem/src'
>    mkdir -p /software/TPP-4.5.2/src/../build/CentOS-x86_64/help
>    mkdir -p /software/TPP-4.5.2/src/../build/CentOS-x86_64/schema
>    mkdir -p /software/TPP-4.5.2/src/../build/CentOS-x86_64/images
>    cd perl_paths; export PERL=perl; make -f perl_paths.makefile all
>    make[1]: Entering directory `/software/TPP-4.5.2/src/perl_paths'
>    perl -pe
>    
> "s/\/cygdrive\/c\/Inetpub\/tpp-bin\//\/usr\/local\/tpp\/cgi\-bin\//g;s/\x24\{base_dir\}users\//\/usr\/local\/tpp\/cgi-bin\/users\//g;s/\/tools\/bin\/TPP\/tpp\//\/usr\/local\/tpp\//g;s/cygpath
>
>    \-wp
>    
> //g;s/\"\/cygdrive\/c\/Inetpub\/wwwroot\/\"/\\x24ENV\{\'WEBSERVER_ROOT\'\}\.'\/'/g;s/\/tpp\-bin/\/tpp\/cgi\-bin/g;s/'\/usr\/bin\//'/g;s/'\/bin\//'/g
>
>    " < ../../CGI/show_nspbin.pl > ../../build/CentOS-x86_64/show_nspbin.pl
>    perl -c -I ../../build/CentOS-x86_64
>    ../../build/CentOS-x86_64/show_nspbin.pl
>    Use of ?PATTERN? without explicit operator is deprecated at
>    ../../build/CentOS-x86_64/show_nspbin.pl line 123.
>    syntax error at ../../build/CentOS-x86_64/show_nspbin.pl line 115,
>    near
>    "$head qw(bin_number nsp_range positive_freq negative_freq
>    positive/negative_ratio)"
>    syntax error at ../../build/CentOS-x86_64/show_nspbin.pl line 122,
>    near
>    "elsif"
>    Global symbol "$element" requires explicit package name at
>    ../../build/CentOS-x86_64/show_nspbin.pl line 122.
>    syntax error at ../../build/CentOS-x86_64/show_nspbin.pl line 146,
>    near "}"
>    Global symbol "$element" requires explicit package name at
>    ../../build/CentOS-x86_64/show_nspbin.pl line 148.
>    syntax error at ../../build/CentOS-x86_64/show_nspbin.pl line 152,
>    near
>    "$head qw(bin_number ni_range positive_freq negative_freq
>    positive/negative_ratio)"
>    syntax error at ../../build/CentOS-x86_64/show_nspbin.pl line 157,
>    near "}"
>    syntax error at ../../build/CentOS-x86_64/show_nspbin.pl line 179,
>    near "}"
>    Can't use global @_ in "my" at ../../build/CentOS-x86_64/show_nspbin.pl
>    line 184, near "= @_"
>    Global symbol "$element" requires explicit package name at
>    ../../build/CentOS-x86_64/show_nspbin.pl line 186.
>    Global symbol "$element" requires explicit package name at
>    ../../build/CentOS-x86_64/show_nspbin.pl line 190.
>    Global symbol "$element" requires explicit package name at
>    ../../build/CentOS-x86_64/show_nspbin.pl line 194.
>    syntax error at ../../build/CentOS-x86_64/show_nspbin.pl line 199,
>    near "}"
>    ../../build/CentOS-x86_64/show_nspbin.pl has too many errors.
>    make[1]: *** [../../build/CentOS-x86_64/show_nspbin.pl] Error 255
>    make[1]: *** Deleting file `../../build/CentOS-x86_64/show_nspbin.pl'
>    make[1]: Leaving directory `/software/TPP-4.5.2/src/perl_paths'
>    make: *** [perl_paths] Error 2
>
>    Can someone have an idea of what to do with this? I am installing on
>    CentOS6.2.
>    Thanks a lot,
>    Qiaojun
>
>
>
>
>    chr12is <[email protected]> Nov 11 03:11AM -0800
>
>    Hi Qiaojun,
>
>    I had the same errors when installing the latest version of the TPP on
>    my
>    CentOS cluster. For some reason it throws an error with the qw syntax
>    in
>    the perl files. If you go in those files where it is giving an error,
>    e.g.
>    show_nspbin.pl, and edit the the lines containing qw(variableX
>    variableY)
>    for example, to use the conventional syntax of ('variableX' ,
>    'variableY')
>    removing the qw and using quotes and commas instead it should
>    work...at
>    least it did for me.
>
>    You will have to edit this in a a few different files, like
>    tpp_models.pl...and a couple others I can't remember off the top of my
>    head. But just keep doing 'make' after you fix one, and the next one
>    it has
>    a problem with will appear.
>
>    If any one has a nicer fix for this I would be happy to hear it as it
>    would
>    save me some time!
>
>    FYI, this is only a problem, at least for me, in the latest version of
>    the
>    TPP (4.6.3). I was able to compile previous versions without issue.
>
>    Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>    Joseph Slagel <[email protected]> Nov 11 10:17AM -0800
>
>    Hi Qiaojun,
>
>    What version of perl are you using (perl -V)?
>
>    -Joe
>
>
>
>    --
>    Joe Slagel
>    Institute for Systems Biology
>    [email protected]
>    (206) 732-1362
>
>
>
>
>    [email protected] Nov 11 09:57PM -0800
>
>    Hi, Josh,
>
>    Thanks for the reply, I am using v5.18.1. However, I found the
>    PERL_LIB_CORE=/usr/lib64/perl5/5.10.0/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/CORE/
>
>    I don't quite understand why it is under 5.10.0 folder, could this be
>    the
>    problem? How shall I correct this?
>
>    Qiaojun
>
>
>
>
>
>    [email protected] Nov 11 10:51PM -0800
>
>    Hi, Joe,
>
>    I am using perl v.15.8.
>
>    $ which perl
>    /usr/bin/perl
>
>    however, the
>    PERL_LIB_CORE=/usr/lib64/perl5/5.10.0/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/CORE/
>
>    Not sure why it is installed under 5.10.0, which is the only folder in
>    perl5. Could this affect the compilation? How shall I correct it?
>
>    Thanks a lot!
>    Qiaojun
>
>
>
>
>
>
>    [email protected] Nov 12 09:53PM -0800
>
>    Hi, Chris,
>
>    Thanks for your reply. Sorry it took a while to reply since connect to
>    this group is slow and often fails from our country.
>
>    The version of show_npsbin.pl is different in TPP4.4 or earlier, so I
>    simply replace it with and older version and make it compiled.
>
>    However, if you run xinteract, did you get the syntax errors in the
>    tpp_model.pl? So I think something in my system is configured
>    differently
>    for TPP.
>
>    Qiaojun
>
>
>
>
>   sequest and 
> tpp<http://groups.google.com/group/spctools-discuss/t/5bca6a16f37db26a>
>
>    newuser <[email protected]> Nov 13 02:35AM -0800
>
>    dear all,
>
>    I am a new user of TPP software. So far, I was using a Proteome
>    Discoverer
>    v 1.2 with sequest search engine. Now, I want to run the TPP using
>    sequest.
>    Unfortunatelly, I am not a bioinformatician, so I found it difficult
>    to set
>    the sequest based on the posted discussion so far. I would be glad for
>    the
>    explanation. Thank you in advance!
>
>
>
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