Hi all,

I’ve added some comments to https://github.com/spdx/change-proposal/issues/4 
<https://github.com/spdx/change-proposal/issues/4> and am looking forward to 
coming to a conclusion on our first official use of the Change Proposal process 
at tomorrow’s meeting (and apologies to Alexios that its taken a bit longer 
than we intended). That said, I want to be clear that we will come to a 
conclusion at tomorrow’s meeting - for the reason already stated and because 
this is key to progressing 3.0!!

As for Karsten’s Change Proposal - I have commented there and will repeat here: 
I’d really like to consider and conclude on Alexios’s first. Then proceed to 
consider Karsten’s. While I realize there is some overlap, part of the point of 
implementing the Change Proposal process was to have concrete proposals and 
conclusions. As such, I think we should honor each proposer by giving their 
proposals due and separate consideration.

Thanks,
Jilayne

> On Apr 24, 2023, at 4:21 PM, Karsten Klein <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> since we are discussing [2] I would like to keep another change proposal not 
> too secret. In [6] I’ve written up a slightly more extensive change proposal 
> that would also cover [2].
> In this change proposal I’m extending the concept of a license modifier to 
> cover different types of modifiers organized in categories (exceptions being 
> one out of currently four).
>  
> See also the yet management amount of discussion in issue [7].
>  
> Perhaps the change proposal offers a perspective that is worthwhile to 
> consider during the discussions on Thursday.
>  
> Please also mind the not yet merged PR [8]. It provides more examples that 
> apply modifiers to convey license application/usage specifics.
>  
> Kind regards,
> Karsten
>  
> [1] https://github.com/spdx/meetings#legal-team-meetings 
> <https://github.com/spdx/meetings#legal-team-meetings>
> [2] https://github.com/spdx/change-proposal/issues/4 
> <https://github.com/spdx/change-proposal/issues/4>
> [3] https://github.com/spdx/meetings/blob/main/legal/2023-01-12.md 
> <https://github.com/spdx/meetings/blob/main/legal/2023-01-12.md>
> [4] https://github.com/spdx/spdx-spec/pull/839/files 
> <https://github.com/spdx/spdx-spec/pull/839/files>
> [5] https://spdx.org/licenses/exceptions-index.html 
> <https://spdx.org/licenses/exceptions-index.html>
>  
> [6] https://github.com/spdx/change-proposal/blob/main/proposals/Modifiers.md 
> <https://github.com/spdx/change-proposal/blob/main/proposals/Modifiers.md>
> [7] https://github.com/spdx/change-proposal/issues/6 
> <https://github.com/spdx/change-proposal/issues/6>
> [8] 
> https://github.com/spdx/change-proposal/blob/2d6420940e2654a860cd79ef1520c0cf205167a7/proposals/Modifiers.md
>  
> <https://github.com/spdx/change-proposal/blob/2d6420940e2654a860cd79ef1520c0cf205167a7/proposals/Modifiers.md>
>  
>  
> From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Steve Winslow 
> <[email protected]>
> Date: Sunday, 23. April 2023 at 13:30
> To: SPDX-legal <[email protected]>, spdx-tech 
> <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Reminder: Change Proposal on custom license exceptions / 
> modifiers / additions
>  
> Hello SPDX legal and tech teams,
>  
> This Thursday, April 27th at 12:00 EDT, during our regularly scheduled legal 
> team meeting [1], we will be discussing and finalizing on the details of the 
> change proposal for custom license "additions" [2]. This follows from the 
> previous meeting on January 12 where this was discussed. [3]
>  
> Based on the discussion in the change proposal thread, I am seeing greatest 
> consensus for the use of `AdditionRef-` as the prefix for custom 'additions' 
> to license text, as reflected in Alexios's PR at [4]. As previously agreed, 
> the SPDX Exceptions List itself [5] would continue to be limited to solely 
> exceptions to license conditions / additional permissions. `AdditionRef-` as 
> a prefix would then be used for custom identifiers that are _not_ on the 
> Exceptions List, to represent any additional text added to a license which is 
> not a standalone license itself.
>  
> I would ask that folks who will attend the April 27th meeting please review 
> the threads linked below so that we can finalize on the decision during that 
> call.
>  
> Best,
> Steve
>  
> [1] https://github.com/spdx/meetings#legal-team-meetings 
> <https://github.com/spdx/meetings#legal-team-meetings>
> [2] https://github.com/spdx/change-proposal/issues/4 
> <https://github.com/spdx/change-proposal/issues/4>
> [3] https://github.com/spdx/meetings/blob/main/legal/2023-01-12.md 
> <https://github.com/spdx/meetings/blob/main/legal/2023-01-12.md>
> [4] https://github.com/spdx/spdx-spec/pull/839/files 
> <https://github.com/spdx/spdx-spec/pull/839/files>
> [5] https://spdx.org/licenses/exceptions-index.html 
> <https://spdx.org/licenses/exceptions-index.html>
>  
> On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 3:01 PM Steve Winslow via lists.spdx.org 
> <http://lists.spdx.org/> <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Hello spdx-legal and spdx-tech team lists,
>>  
>> As a reminder, following from the joint teams meeting in January, there is a 
>> pending Change Proposal [1] regarding whether and how to add the ability to 
>> express custom license "exceptions" (or "modifiers", or "additions") in SPDX 
>> license expressions.
>>  
>> This is one of the primary open items to be decided upon in connection with 
>> the draft SPDX 3.0 licensing profile [2]. So if the licensing profile will 
>> include support for some form of this for 3.0, we'll need to conclude on 
>> what and how it will be implemented.
>>  
>> If you have thoughts, please review that Change Proposal thread and the 
>> linked proposed PRs, and weigh in on that issue thread with your input.
>>  
>> Best,
>> Steve
>>  
>> [1] https://github.com/spdx/change-proposal/issues/4 
>> <https://github.com/spdx/change-proposal/issues/4>
>> [2] 
>> https://github.com/spdx/spdx-3-model/tree/licensing-profile/model/Licensing 
>> <https://github.com/spdx/spdx-3-model/tree/licensing-profile/model/Licensing>
> 
> 



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