Can you please put it on http://wiki.openid.net/Working_Groups%3AOpenID_Discovery?
Thanks, --David On Dec 22, 2008, at 11:08 AM, Breno de Medeiros wrote: > BTW, the discovery WG proposal does not appear in the new version of > the wiki. > > On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Breno de Medeiros > <br...@google.com> wrote: >> For the time being, I would be happy if the 2.1 spec moved all the >> references to discovery to a second document. >> >> The first version of the separate document would just "clone" the >> current approach to discovery in the 2.0 spec. If the updated version >> that explains XRD discovery is available before the 2.1 WG completes >> its work, then it could refer to the new document, otherwise it could >> refer to the old document. In the case of pointing to old document, >> we >> probably should add an appendix noting that changes in discovery to >> support new use cases are coming, and pointers on how to manage the >> transition. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:27 AM, David Recordon <drecor...@sixapart.com >> > wrote: >>> Agreed with Breno here. We're going to have to make a change to >>> OpenID >>> discovery at some point over the next year as other groups finish >>> their >>> evolutions of Yadis, XRDS, etc. I like this being a separate WG >>> since it >>> means that the core Auth spec can choose to move to using it at a >>> later date >>> versus being tied up on it's development. >>> >>> --David >>> >>> On Dec 20, 2008, at 12:48 AM, Breno de Medeiros wrote: >>> >>>> It is part of the scope of this group to develop a best-practices >>>> guidance for transition from YADIS to XRD discovery. >>>> >>>> Full backward-compatibility is not a goal, since at least one new >>>> mechanism for publishing discovery information is expected to make >>>> part of XRD discovery (dynamic mapping type), and this new >>>> mechanism >>>> is being put there (in XRD discovery) in large part because the >>>> current YADIS mechanism makes it difficult for smaller sites to >>>> become >>>> OPs/RPs by using a hosted solution (so it is an OpenID-driven >>>> need for >>>> wider adoption). >>>> >>>> XRD discovery is also expected to include a signing mechanism, >>>> which >>>> will allow for use of higher-security discovery "profiles". As >>>> part >>>> of this best-practices document, the OpenID discovery spec should >>>> give >>>> guidance on the security characteristics of each profile. The >>>> current >>>> mechanism (which limits re-directs and enforces realm authority = >>>> return_to url authority) will constitute a profile and there will >>>> likely be at least a second profile that verifies signatures on the >>>> discovered documents but allow for unmatched realm/return_to URLs. >>>> >>>> That being said, we are certainly aware of the need to make the >>>> transition as smooth as possible, and that is why it is part of the >>>> scope of this group to write a transitions guidance document. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Mike Jones >>>> <michael.jo...@microsoft.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Can you add a clear statement to the draft charter that >>>>> implementations >>>>> already using Yadis will remain compatible with the output of >>>>> this working >>>>> group, since, as I understand it, XRDS-Simple is intended to be >>>>> compatible >>>>> with Yadis? Or is backwards-compatibility with existing OpenID >>>>> 2.0 >>>>> implementations not a goal of this work? >>>>> >>>>> -- Mike >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: specs-boun...@openid.net [mailto:specs-boun...@openid.net] >>>>> On >>>>> Behalf Of Breno de Medeiros >>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 6:14 PM >>>>> To: OpenID Specs Mailing List >>>>> Cc: David Recordon; Brian Eaton; Johannes Ernst >>>>> Subject: Proposal to form Working Group >>>>> >>>>> I would like to submit the following proposal for a working group >>>>> charter (also available at >>>>> http://wiki.openid.net/Working_Groups:Discovery): >>>>> >>>>> Services and Metadata Discovery Coordination Working Group >>>>> (Discovery) >>>>> >>>>> Charter Proposal >>>>> >>>>> In accordance with the OpenID Foundation IPR policies and >>>>> procedures >>>>> this note proposes the formation of a new working group >>>>> chartered to >>>>> produce an OpenID specification. As per Section 4.1 of the >>>>> Policies, >>>>> the proposed charter is below (still liable to change during this >>>>> feedback period). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I. Name >>>>> >>>>> Services and Metadata Discovery Coordination Working Group >>>>> (Discovery) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> II. Statement of Purpose >>>>> >>>>> Produce a document describing the OpenID discovery workflow, >>>>> updating >>>>> the current mechanism to describe how to use OASIS >>>>> specifications for >>>>> discovery, to be drafted by the OASIS XRI TC. The intention is >>>>> that >>>>> the document will be incorporated as part of some future version >>>>> of >>>>> the OpenID Authentication spec. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> III. Scope >>>>> >>>>> Produce a document describing the use of OASIS discovery >>>>> specifications as formulated by the OASIS XRI TC, for normative >>>>> application by all other OpenID specifications. Produce a document >>>>> describing the recommended migration of services discovery from >>>>> the >>>>> Yadis 1.0 specification to the discovery specifications currently >>>>> being developed by the OASIS XRI TC. All types of identifiers >>>>> addressed by OASIS XRI TC discovery (XRD 1.0) are within scope >>>>> of this >>>>> WG. Publish a list of service and resource types supported by the >>>>> discovery mechanism. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> IV. Specifications >>>>> >>>>> OpenID Discovery, including a sub-spec for Trusted OpenID >>>>> Discovery, >>>>> and a best-practices guidance document for migration. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> V. Anticipated audience >>>>> >>>>> All those interested in the OpenID specifications. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> VI. Language of business >>>>> >>>>> English. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> VII. Method of work >>>>> >>>>> Mailing list discussion. Posting of intermediate drafts in the >>>>> OpenID >>>>> Wiki. Virtual conferencing on an ad-hoc basis. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> VIII. Basis for completion of the activity >>>>> >>>>> The discovery document is final and all deliverables have been >>>>> incorporated into the OpenID Authentication spec, perhaps by >>>>> reference. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Background Information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I. Related Work >>>>> >>>>> XRD 1.0 spec, being drafted by the OASIS XRI TC. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> II. Initial Membership >>>>> >>>>> * Brian Eaton, bea...@google.com, Google, Inc. >>>>> * Johannes Ernst, jer...@netmesh.us, NetMesh. (editor) >>>>> * Eran Hammer-Lahav, e...@hueniverse.com, Yahoo! Inc. >>>>> * Breno de Medeiros, br...@google.com, Google, Inc. (editor) >>>>> * David Recordon, da...@sixapart.com, Six Apart Ltd. >>>>> * Drummond Reed, drummond.r...@cordance.net, Cordance >>>>> * Nat Sakimura, n-sakim...@nri.co.jp, NRI >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> --Breno >>>>> >>>>> +1 (650) 214-1007 desk >>>>> +1 (408) 212-0135 (Grand Central) >>>>> MTV-41-3 : 383-A >>>>> PST (GMT-8) / PDT(GMT-7) >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> specs mailing list >>>>> specs@openid.net >>>>> http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> --Breno >>>> >>>> +1 (650) 214-1007 desk >>>> +1 (408) 212-0135 (Grand Central) >>>> MTV-41-3 : 383-A >>>> PST (GMT-8) / PDT(GMT-7) >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> --Breno >> >> +1 (650) 214-1007 desk >> +1 (408) 212-0135 (Grand Central) >> MTV-41-3 : 383-A >> PST (GMT-8) / PDT(GMT-7) >> > > > > -- > --Breno > > +1 (650) 214-1007 desk > +1 (408) 212-0135 (Grand Central) > MTV-41-3 : 383-A > PST (GMT-8) / PDT(GMT-7) _______________________________________________ specs mailing list specs@openid.net http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs
