Done. Also updated the status of both the Discovery and the AX 2.0 WG to say status = Draft charter submitted for consideration by the specs council
I have emailed the OpenID spec with the proposed charters, so I understand that the above status description is accurate. On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 3:57 PM, David Recordon <drecor...@sixapart.com> wrote: > Can you please put it on > http://wiki.openid.net/Working_Groups%3AOpenID_Discovery? > > Thanks, > --David > > On Dec 22, 2008, at 11:08 AM, Breno de Medeiros wrote: > >> BTW, the discovery WG proposal does not appear in the new version of the >> wiki. >> >> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Breno de Medeiros <br...@google.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> For the time being, I would be happy if the 2.1 spec moved all the >>> references to discovery to a second document. >>> >>> The first version of the separate document would just "clone" the >>> current approach to discovery in the 2.0 spec. If the updated version >>> that explains XRD discovery is available before the 2.1 WG completes >>> its work, then it could refer to the new document, otherwise it could >>> refer to the old document. In the case of pointing to old document, we >>> probably should add an appendix noting that changes in discovery to >>> support new use cases are coming, and pointers on how to manage the >>> transition. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:27 AM, David Recordon <drecor...@sixapart.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Agreed with Breno here. We're going to have to make a change to OpenID >>>> discovery at some point over the next year as other groups finish their >>>> evolutions of Yadis, XRDS, etc. I like this being a separate WG since >>>> it >>>> means that the core Auth spec can choose to move to using it at a later >>>> date >>>> versus being tied up on it's development. >>>> >>>> --David >>>> >>>> On Dec 20, 2008, at 12:48 AM, Breno de Medeiros wrote: >>>> >>>>> It is part of the scope of this group to develop a best-practices >>>>> guidance for transition from YADIS to XRD discovery. >>>>> >>>>> Full backward-compatibility is not a goal, since at least one new >>>>> mechanism for publishing discovery information is expected to make >>>>> part of XRD discovery (dynamic mapping type), and this new mechanism >>>>> is being put there (in XRD discovery) in large part because the >>>>> current YADIS mechanism makes it difficult for smaller sites to become >>>>> OPs/RPs by using a hosted solution (so it is an OpenID-driven need for >>>>> wider adoption). >>>>> >>>>> XRD discovery is also expected to include a signing mechanism, which >>>>> will allow for use of higher-security discovery "profiles". As part >>>>> of this best-practices document, the OpenID discovery spec should give >>>>> guidance on the security characteristics of each profile. The current >>>>> mechanism (which limits re-directs and enforces realm authority = >>>>> return_to url authority) will constitute a profile and there will >>>>> likely be at least a second profile that verifies signatures on the >>>>> discovered documents but allow for unmatched realm/return_to URLs. >>>>> >>>>> That being said, we are certainly aware of the need to make the >>>>> transition as smooth as possible, and that is why it is part of the >>>>> scope of this group to write a transitions guidance document. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Mike Jones >>>>> <michael.jo...@microsoft.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you add a clear statement to the draft charter that >>>>>> implementations >>>>>> already using Yadis will remain compatible with the output of this >>>>>> working >>>>>> group, since, as I understand it, XRDS-Simple is intended to be >>>>>> compatible >>>>>> with Yadis? Or is backwards-compatibility with existing OpenID 2.0 >>>>>> implementations not a goal of this work? >>>>>> >>>>>> -- Mike >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: specs-boun...@openid.net [mailto:specs-boun...@openid.net] On >>>>>> Behalf Of Breno de Medeiros >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 6:14 PM >>>>>> To: OpenID Specs Mailing List >>>>>> Cc: David Recordon; Brian Eaton; Johannes Ernst >>>>>> Subject: Proposal to form Working Group >>>>>> >>>>>> I would like to submit the following proposal for a working group >>>>>> charter (also available at >>>>>> http://wiki.openid.net/Working_Groups:Discovery): >>>>>> >>>>>> Services and Metadata Discovery Coordination Working Group (Discovery) >>>>>> >>>>>> Charter Proposal >>>>>> >>>>>> In accordance with the OpenID Foundation IPR policies and procedures >>>>>> this note proposes the formation of a new working group chartered to >>>>>> produce an OpenID specification. As per Section 4.1 of the Policies, >>>>>> the proposed charter is below (still liable to change during this >>>>>> feedback period). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I. Name >>>>>> >>>>>> Services and Metadata Discovery Coordination Working Group (Discovery) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> II. Statement of Purpose >>>>>> >>>>>> Produce a document describing the OpenID discovery workflow, updating >>>>>> the current mechanism to describe how to use OASIS specifications for >>>>>> discovery, to be drafted by the OASIS XRI TC. The intention is that >>>>>> the document will be incorporated as part of some future version of >>>>>> the OpenID Authentication spec. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> III. Scope >>>>>> >>>>>> Produce a document describing the use of OASIS discovery >>>>>> specifications as formulated by the OASIS XRI TC, for normative >>>>>> application by all other OpenID specifications. Produce a document >>>>>> describing the recommended migration of services discovery from the >>>>>> Yadis 1.0 specification to the discovery specifications currently >>>>>> being developed by the OASIS XRI TC. All types of identifiers >>>>>> addressed by OASIS XRI TC discovery (XRD 1.0) are within scope of this >>>>>> WG. Publish a list of service and resource types supported by the >>>>>> discovery mechanism. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> IV. Specifications >>>>>> >>>>>> OpenID Discovery, including a sub-spec for Trusted OpenID Discovery, >>>>>> and a best-practices guidance document for migration. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> V. Anticipated audience >>>>>> >>>>>> All those interested in the OpenID specifications. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> VI. Language of business >>>>>> >>>>>> English. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> VII. Method of work >>>>>> >>>>>> Mailing list discussion. Posting of intermediate drafts in the OpenID >>>>>> Wiki. Virtual conferencing on an ad-hoc basis. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> VIII. Basis for completion of the activity >>>>>> >>>>>> The discovery document is final and all deliverables have been >>>>>> incorporated into the OpenID Authentication spec, perhaps by >>>>>> reference. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Background Information >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I. Related Work >>>>>> >>>>>> XRD 1.0 spec, being drafted by the OASIS XRI TC. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> II. Initial Membership >>>>>> >>>>>> * Brian Eaton, bea...@google.com, Google, Inc. >>>>>> * Johannes Ernst, jer...@netmesh.us, NetMesh. (editor) >>>>>> * Eran Hammer-Lahav, e...@hueniverse.com, Yahoo! Inc. >>>>>> * Breno de Medeiros, br...@google.com, Google, Inc. (editor) >>>>>> * David Recordon, da...@sixapart.com, Six Apart Ltd. >>>>>> * Drummond Reed, drummond.r...@cordance.net, Cordance >>>>>> * Nat Sakimura, n-sakim...@nri.co.jp, NRI >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> --Breno >>>>>> >>>>>> +1 (650) 214-1007 desk >>>>>> +1 (408) 212-0135 (Grand Central) >>>>>> MTV-41-3 : 383-A >>>>>> PST (GMT-8) / PDT(GMT-7) >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> specs mailing list >>>>>> specs@openid.net >>>>>> http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> --Breno >>>>> >>>>> +1 (650) 214-1007 desk >>>>> +1 (408) 212-0135 (Grand Central) >>>>> MTV-41-3 : 383-A >>>>> PST (GMT-8) / PDT(GMT-7) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> --Breno >>> >>> +1 (650) 214-1007 desk >>> +1 (408) 212-0135 (Grand Central) >>> MTV-41-3 : 383-A >>> PST (GMT-8) / PDT(GMT-7) >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> --Breno >> >> +1 (650) 214-1007 desk >> +1 (408) 212-0135 (Grand Central) >> MTV-41-3 : 383-A >> PST (GMT-8) / PDT(GMT-7) > > > -- --Breno +1 (650) 214-1007 desk +1 (408) 212-0135 (Grand Central) MTV-41-3 : 383-A PST (GMT-8) / PDT(GMT-7) _______________________________________________ specs mailing list specs@openid.net http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs
