there are telco use cases where a family member, by dint only of 'subscriber authentication' to the IDP/OP, is able to access shared resources (e.g. family calendar) at an SP/RP.

Unlike in Chris's academia case the OP/IDP is itself unable to distinguish a particular user from amongst other group members based on this sort of authentication.

To allow the SP to indicate back to the IDP that it needed a user authenticated as an individual (to allow for instance the RP to show calendar events associated with the user and not shared amongst the group) in SAML we defined an extension to Authn Context to distinguish between such shared credentials and those that are unique to a single user.

http://docs.oasis-open.org/security/saml/SpecDrafts-Post2.0/sstc-saml-context-ext-sc-cd-03.pdf

paul

Chris Messina wrote:
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Dick Hardt <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


    On 12-May-09, at 1:36 AM, Nat Sakimura wrote:


        Reason for using RP's Subject in XRD instead of simply using
        realm is
        to allow for something like group identifier.


    would you elaborate on the group identifier concept?


I'm not sure what Nat is specifically referring to, but there was a US academic institution that provided OpenIDs for "classes" of people... i.e. students, teachers, etc.

When you signed in for certain application, the OP would respond with the appropriate identifier for a class of users.

So, imagine I use directed identity in a school application... when I sign in to the OP, it will return something like schoolname.edu/student <http://schoolname.edu/student> as the identifier.

You could imagine something similar where you could use authentication as a way to verify that someone comes from some geographic region or has previously registered for certain entitlements.

Chris

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