Hi All, I have to agree with Geoff, but also with others. Macromedia IMHO, made this decision to late - but its a good one and we will run with it, though really, it should have been done when it was canned : but you can defo count on the fact there were alot of other factors internally ;-)
I do think Spectra is worth saving but it really needs to be organised in the same way Daemon organises FarCry : i.e. there has to be some form of control over fixes/enhancements/mods etc... as without that, it will be very very difficult to promote. I for one would love to work with the Open Source Spectra effort but it would need some help from MM in the beginning, like hosting of the SpectraSource app etc......Tim, care to comment? Its not a huge thing to ask for and is essential to progression. I certainly dont mind helping on that front if not administration of it etc... What must also be produced by MM for anyone wishing to do this would have to all the code diagrams, sql diagrams and anything else which led to Spectra's development. We are using FarCry more and more but we find Spectra worthwhile as well...... Just my $0.02c -----Original Message----- From: Geoff Bowers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 July 2003 23:47 To: Spectra-Talk Subject: Re: Spectra opensource needs you Raymond Camden wrote: >>Given the circus tricks required to install Spectra on CFMX I >>very much doubt if any "new" people will bother with Spectra. >> Do Macromedia have plans to improve installation of the open >>source product?? When they remove the Ektron editor, Sybase >>and any other third-party components what are they replacing >>them with -- how much of an investment are they likely to >>make to get this thing to work? > > I don't think this is quite fair. The third party tools are what - > Ektron and Sybase. However, Sybase was ONLY used for OOB experience and > demos. You do not need Sybase. Ektron is an HTML editor, and a good one, > but can easily be replaced by alternatives. That's not really what I meant. Clearly Spectra doesn't need these things to be a decent code base. But someone will have to repair the installer and the code base etc once these are removed. Someone will need to make it easy to get going to convince others to give it a go. I'm yet to see any evidence from MM that they are doing anything with the code base at all. >>As a closing note... If you are CF/Spectra shop looking for a >>CMS solution that is open source and actively supported by a >>growing developer and user base -- you might consider FarCry >>CMS (http://farcry.daemon.com.au/). Especially since the >>migration path and learning curve for Spectra shops is minimal. > > So, is this list going to turn into a "Since Spectra is dead, here is my > CMS" list? If so, my company also offers a CMS. ;) Maybe :) But specifically the CMS I'm pointing to is Spectra-esque *AND* it is open source. If there is anything else in the CF World that even comes close to its sophistication and is open source, I'd love to hear it. CMS is a commodity -- we turned the Daemon CMS product around into a service driven model as opposed to a license driven one. Seems to be working so far. -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/spectra_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
