Sorry, Same here... i don't get the negative stuff about Verity. Okay, Lucence is okay, actually.. it is rather cool if you play with it for a while... but then again.... some organisations still have trouble with the open source stuff and they then rather go for the enterprise solution like Verity, I am not saying that Lucence is NOT enterprise worty, but it is just how the client looks at it.
Besides that, Verity has some tools which are simply very usefull if you are doing specific indexing you will like the intelligent classifier... doesn't come with Verity for CF7 but if you are upscalling... than this becomes very interesting and available. My 2cents, Vincent > I'm not sure where the negative stuff on verity comes from, it's worked > well > for me. But it depends on your searching requirements I guess. > > The main downside is the time it takes to add new items to a collection > but > other than that I don't get why people don't like it. > > I have done full text searing with mssql which is OK, and a bunch of other > approaches too with varying success and I quite fancy having a look at > Lucene too but as ever its finding the time. > > Doug > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 22 March 2005 10:04 > To: Spectra-Talk > Subject: Re: Verity k2 with spectra > > Doug, > > Nice outline, but this is the process outlined in the CF docs (working > with > Verity). It is very east to switch to K2 - just not a good idea! > > Maybe anyone consideing using Full Test search should consider Lucene - it > is not only more reliable but faster and doesn't cost a small fortune if > you > need to upgrade. > > If I were you I would ditch any need for Verity in your apps at all - I > don't understand why MM still package it rather than Lucene. > > N > > > > > > "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, > Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, > Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is > confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of > the > intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please > note > that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the > information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. 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The following command > line needs to be executed in the cf_root\lib\ directory > > k2server -ntservice 1 -inifile k2server.ini > > (assuming cfmx is running under jrun the cf_root directory would be > C:\JRun4\servers\cfusion\cfusion-ear\cfusion-war\WEB-INF\cfusion) > > 2. Edit the k2server.ini file to reflect the verity collections that > will be used with the k2 engine. The vdkhome entry in the ini file also > needs the correct value for the server to start. > > 3. Set the k2 server defaults in the cold fusion administrator to the > newly installed k2 server. If the k2 server is running on the same > machine as the cfmx server the k2 server details will be 127.0.0.1 > running on port 9901. If this is successful all the k2 referenced > collections should be visible in the cf administrator. If they are > visible but red it may be that the server is not running correctly or > is > still starting. > > The k2 server should now be installed and running with cold fusion set to > use the k2 collections (k2 collections will be seen in the verity section > of > the cold fusion administrator). The cfsearch tag will automatically use > the > k2 server if collections named in the k2server.ini file are passed as > parameters to it. > > The spectra tag cfa_typesearch which in turn uses the cfsearch tag are > used > to search using verity. The tags will ask verity to search the collection > created when indexing, the default search engine is the VDK. > > All you have to do is edit the k2server.ini in the cf_root\lib\ directory > and add all the collections created by spectra (don't forget to restart > the > K2 service and watch the memory dissapear). For each alias (collection > name) > in the ini file I added _k2 so I could pass a switch into the > cfa_typesearch > so I could turn k2 searching on or off. Add _k2 to the collection name > makes > verity use the alias I created in the ini file and thus the k2 engine. No > _k2 and the VDK is used. > > An entry for a collection in the ini file should look something like this: > [Coll-1] > collPath=c:\program > files\allaire\spectra\collections\06246AF4-DF4E-4747-84905AF8BDB8AE93_Date\c > ustom > collAlias=06246AF4-DF4E-4747-84905AF8BDB8AE93_Date_k2 > topicSet= > knowledgeBase= > onLine=2 > > CF 7 doesn't use the VDK just K2 and it's a newer version with all sorts > of > twiddly bits (no ini file either). The nice bit is it all 'just works' > > Hope that points you in the right direction, the K2 stuff really does work > well and is very fast so I would recommend you try it. Let me know how you > get on. > > Doug Cain > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 16 March 2005 16:23 > To: Spectra-Talk > Subject: RE: Continuing on Spectra? > > We use plain Verity and K2 extensively. Were you able to switch the > Spectra collections from vanilla Verity to K2? I have tried on one > occasion but was never really able to make it work. > > You're right about Spectra not taking advantage of newer stuff in CFMX. I > always keep in mind that it was written for 4.5.1 and doesn't even have > things like QoQ. I've rewritten a bunch of my old code to reflect changes > to the app server, but haven't tackled the Spectra tags directly. > > You probably saw Simon's response and my response to him. If we can get > enough people interested in stewarding a real open source version, managed > on Sourceforge (or similar) it would be nice. But if we can't then maybe a > smaller, less official community of practice might work out. I'd be > willing to host a shared Spectra blog where we could post articles & code. > > > Curious to hear how many people might be interested. > > S > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:17:5656 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/17 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:17 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.17 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
