I think there's something else going on.  How do you know that Spectrum is the 
application that is listening on UDP/161?  If you have a utility or command, 
can you send the output?

I don't think it's odd at all that you are running the SNMP service, I just 
know that the SpectroServer does not listen on UDP/161.  I think there is 
another problem here.  Could you provide the output that shows spectrum 
listening on UDP/161?

Now, I could certainly see if some process was listening on UDP/162 and 
spectrum having an issue with that.  If that is the case, do you have a need to 
use UDP/162 other than spectrum.  I could see that causing an issue, but not 
port 161.

From: Gaines, Reba R [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 12:50 PM
To: Michael Votaw - VTI; spectrum
Subject: RE: SNMP GRABS SPECTRUM PORTS DURING REBOOT AFTER MICROSOFT UPDATES

Here's the scenario.  Every Tuesday at 3:00 AM we run windows updates.  When 
the system reboots and comes backup  UDP/161 is grabbed by SNMP and UDP/162 is 
grabbed by Spectrum.  SpectroServer won't start automatically.  After I 
manually start it and start OneClick, OneClick will show a major alarm saying 
that the NCM service is not running when in fact it is.  So I have to stop the 
ncm services and processd restarts it.   I have found that if Spectrum grabs 
both 161 and 162 , the SpectroServer starts automatically and I don't see the 
major alarm referring to ncm services not running.

Si my initial question was how can I get the snmp services to start after 
Spectrum services have started?

Some have asked why I am running Microsoft snmp services in the first place, 
it's because I am monitoring several other services on that server within 
Spectrum along with thresholds  for memory utilization and disk space; like so, 
I am monitoring different services across multiple servers where snmp is 
enabled.


Reba R Gaines, MBA/TM
Unicenter/Solarwinds Systems Manager
Ciber Defense Technology Systems
200 Westpark Drive, Suite 330
Peachtree City, GA 30269

(770) 268-7448  Direct Dial
(678) 449-9080  Mobile




From: Michael Votaw - VTI [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:55 AM
To: Gaines, Reba R; spectrum
Subject: RE: SNMP GRABS SPECTRUM PORTS DURING REBOOT AFTER MICROSOFT UPDATES

I would like to put my $.02 in.

Unless things have changed drastically, Spectrum never needs to hold UDP/161 
open on the SpectroServer, only UDP/162.    Spectrum will indeed send requests 
out to the destination port UDP/161 to poll devices.  Spectrum must be able to 
receive SNMP traps on port UDP/162 and will try to open this port, but should 
never open UDP/161.

Spectrum doesn't include its own SNMP agent on the server unless you put it 
there.  There should be no issue at all with running the Microsoft snmp agent 
on the same machine as the spectrum server, as long as you don't enable the 
snmp trap port on the same server (UDP/162).

Try running an application like TCPView 
(http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897437.aspx ) to know for 
sure what application is holding these ports open.

From: Gaines, Reba R [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 6:48 AM
To: spectrum
Subject: [spectrum] SNMP GRABS SPECTRUM PORTS DURING REBOOT AFTER MICROSOFT 
UPDATES
Importance: High

Hello Spectrum Users:

Has anyone conquered this issue.  We deploy Microsoft updates routinely and 
like clockwork, SNMP service grabs either UDP port 161 or 162 (sometimes both) 
before Spectrum can.   I've tried telling SNMP to wait for Spectrum services to 
load first.  That work for a while but then SNMP services would start anymore.  
I had to uninstall it and then reinstall SNMP to get it to work again. Any 
suggestions?

Reba R Gaines, MBA/TM
Unicenter/Solarwinds Systems Manager
Ciber Defense Technology Systems
200 Westpark Drive, Suite 330
Peachtree City, GA 30269

(770) 268-7448  Direct Dial
(678) 449-9080  Mobile


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