One of the drawbacks of using making a 'cage' on the 3x3 (so doing centres last), is that you can get parity if you start with a wrong cross... :)
--- In [email protected], cmhardw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey Gilles, > > Interesting idea. I had never really thought to try that to be honest. > > Sometimes I do start with centers moves right after I pick up the cube > though. Say I have two c/e pairs that connect correctly to the same > corner, so sort of like a 2x2x1 block but the center is not the right > one. If the center is in a bad spot, and I can't really use face > turns effciently then I sometimes permute the center into the 2x2x1 > block and finish from there. > > I do remember once, maybe twice, I actually have had a solved cross bu > on the wrong face, and I permuted the center into that face and a > super fast cross. That was very lucky to get that though. > > I think your idea will allow for always solving an easier cross (since > you can choose to solve it almost anywhere. I say almost since half > of the positions you could solve a cross into will give you a parity > error. > > If you turn any middle layer on a cube where centers are indistinct > then you perform an odd cycle on the edges but leave corners alone. > Choosing to solve the cross on other faces will make this edge parity > possible, so you would have to watch out for that. > > The F2L is a bit confusing, but you could get used to looking at the > side color of the cross edge rather than the center to know where > stuff goes, so that is not a big deal. > > I think the only real hump in such an approach is learning your color > scheme well enough to always solve your cross sch as to avoid the > parity error, but I think that would not take much work. > > I actually want to look into this, since for a solve where a cross is > mostly or completely built on the wrong face, this could be fast. > > I'll definitely try it and see what I think ;-) > > Chris > > --- In [email protected], Gilles van den > Peereboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > Yesterday when I was watching the drawing for the Football World Cup > > in Germany, I was turning my cube and something came up in my mind : > > What about using a cage method for the 3x3 ? > > > > Some times when you solve the cross, you really have a bad time > > (though it's usually not so hard :p) but what if the cross was already > > solved, but not with the good center ? (or something close to that) > > > > Wouldn't it be better to do F2L and then LL without the right centers > > and then fix the centers afterwards ? > > > > The thing is I don't see many advantages with that, but maybe you'll > > see more than I do :-) > > > > What do you think ? > > Gilles. > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/MXMplB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
