Nice David!!

All mine are actually htm-optimised since that's the FMC-metric ;-)

I should try become better at stm-optimisation, cause that's the 
metric i really see as the most fair one. I honor inner slice turns 
as 1 turn only. And i can't see why half turns should be punished 
and considered to be of length 2 ;-)

-Per

> --- In [email protected], "d_j_salvia" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Per,
> 
> OK. One shorter in stm. :)
> 
> U r' U r U' r L F' L' f' L F L' f U'   (20 htm, 15 stm)
> 
> And there's another one that's all r and U. 
> 
> :)
> 
> David J
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Per Kristen 
Fredlund"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi :-)
> > 
> > Ok, here's a slightly different case:
> > 
> > R2 u R' U D F' (L2 D2)*3 F U' D' R' (17-htm, 16-stm)
> > 
> > With another u' at the end it's cool middle layer alg, but i 
like it 
> > better without it.
> > 
> > Oh, and i can of course postpone the first R2 to have this one:
> > 
> > u R' U D F' (L2 D2)*3 F U' D' R (16-htm, 15-stm)
> > 
> > Cheers!
> > 
> > -Per
> > 
> > > --- In [email protected], "Per Kristen 
> > Fredlund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Oopssss ...
> > > 
> > > Here is actually the last case. It's a bit odd, so no wonder i 
> > > initially forgot about it :
> > > 
> > > R F U' L B' U2 B u B' U2 B L' U F' R' (16-htm, 15-stm)
> > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], Gilles van 
den 
> > > Peereboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > How old am I again ? 20 ?
> > > > haha
> > > > 
> > > > Gilles.
> > > > 2005/12/14, Per Kristen Fredlund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > Haha Gilles :D
> > > > >
> > > > > Sacre bleu ;-) I'm sure u are aware of inverses right? So, 
go 
> > > ahead
> > > > > inverse my algorithms. I'm not gonna charge you ... lol ...
> > > > >
> > > > > In fact, in all cases u can do some mirrored algorithm 
> > instead. 
> > > But
> > > > > i know that u know that also :D But the axis of mirroring 
is 
> > not 
> > > the
> > > > > same for all 4 cases ...
> > > > >
> > > > > -Per
> > > > >
> > > > > > --- In [email protected], Gilles 
van den
> > > > > Peereboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now what if the centers were cycled counter-clockwise ?
> > > > > > :p
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gilles.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2005/12/14, Per Kristen Fredlund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > > > Yo!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I realised only one case was left now so here it is :
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > R F - F' r F' L2 F r' F' L2 F2 - u F' R'
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (R r) F' L2 F r' F' L2 F2 u F' R' (13-htm, 11-stm)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Per
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > PS! Since lower case here are inner slice turns, (Rr) 
is 
> > the
> > > > > same as
> > > > > > > fingertrick r alone ;-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Per 
> > Kristen
> > > > > > > Fredlund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That 'Arc de Triomphe' is so well known that i 
didn't 
> > > bother to
> > > > > > > post
> > > > > > > > it yet. Even Stefan knows that one ;-) Here's my way 
of 
> > > doing
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > > one :
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > F' R' B' F L' F' u F L F' B R F
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > F' R' f' D' F' r' F D f R F (14-htm, 11-stm)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The first 5 moves are setup moves for what the r' 
does.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [Actually i normally do it the first way. The second 
way 
> > is
> > > > > slice-
> > > > > > > > turn optimised notation.]
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Have fun!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Per
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], 
Gilles 
> > > van den
> > > > > > > > Peereboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It's funny that the centers are cycles clockwise 
> > (looking
> > > > > from
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > top), and the edges anti-clockwise.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Now add an H permutation and you have a very nice 
> > > pattern :p
> > > > > > > (swap
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > opposite edges on the top layer).
> > > > > > > > > it's some sort of 'Arc de Triomphe' (the monument 
in 
> > > Paris):D
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Gilles
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 2005/12/13, Gilles van den Peereboom 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > > > > > > Very nice algorithms Per :p
> > > > > > > > > > I'm amazed how you can find these.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Gilles.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 2005/12/13, Per Kristen Fredlund 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > > > > > > > Hehe ...
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > This is fun !
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Another pattern along these lines is the 
following:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > F' U2 R' U2 B' L U2 L' u L U2 L' B U2 R U2 F 
(18-
> > > htm, 17-
> > > > > stm)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > F' R' f' D' F' u2 r' u2 r2 F D f R F (20-htm, 
14-
> > stm)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > (Don't forget that here lower case means inner 
> > slice
> > > > > > > turns...)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I don't dare ask Cube Explorer or ACube to 
search 
> > > for me
> > > > > > > cause
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > course then my solutions don't look short 
> > anymore :-P
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -Per
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In 
[email protected], 
> > > Gilles
> > > > > van
> > > > > > > den
> > > > > > > > > > > Peereboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ah, I was wondering why your alg was giving 
> > > something
> > > > > > > close
> > > > > > > > to a
> > > > > > > > > > > full
> > > > > > > > > > > > scramble :p
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm still wondering about the interest of 
this
> > > > > approach or
> > > > > > > > not :s
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Gilles.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > 2005/12/13, Per Kristen Fredlund
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi :-)
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I just realised it's better to do the edge 
3-
> > > cycle
> > > > > > > before
> > > > > > > > the u-
> > > > > > > > > > > > > turn, like this :
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > R U' F - F' r F' L2 F r' F' L2 F2 - u F' U 
R'
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > F - F' cancels to give this very neat 
> > solution :
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > R U' r F' L2 F r' F' L2 F2 u F' U R' (17 
htm, 
> > 14 
> > > stm)
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess that's my best shot ;-)
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -Per
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > (PS! Lower case letters are inner slice 
turns 
> > > here!!)
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In 
> > > [email protected], "Per
> > > > > > > > Kristen
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Fredlund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi :-)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe even nicer:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > R U' F u - L' f L' B2 L f' L' B2 L2 - F' 
U R'
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have fun! (same htm as before, 19 - 
shorter 
> > > stm,
> > > > > 16)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Per
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In
> > > > > > > > [email protected], "d_j_salvia"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi David,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Very nice. You made me look for 
another 
> > > way. :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > U L' B L b L' B' L b2 U2 b U b U b' U' 
r 
> > b' 
> > > r'
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David J
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In 
> > > [email protected],
> > > > > David
> > > > > > > > Barr
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's another way using your 
notation:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > F' U' F u' R u' R u' R u' R F' U F' 
u F2 
> > > D2 R2
> > > > > U2
> > > > > > > R2
> > > > > > > > U2 R2
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/11/05, d_j_salvia 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a long way around, but it 
is a 
> > > way to
> > > > > > > see
> > > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > parity is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about. I use lower case letters to 
mean
> > > > > slices
> > > > > > > > only.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > F B d' F' B' U r U r' U2 r' U2 r2 
U' 
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> > > > > > > r'
> > > > > > > > U2
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