Oh yea I always get those two mixed up. Haha because I always think
that orienting is putting something where it's suppose to be and
yeeaa. I actually started out with a very very very bad ll method.
Basically you orient the edges with those 2 moves I talked about
earlier, then you permute them. Next you permute the corners (there
are 2 moves, well 1, the other is just a mirror to rotate 3 corners
clockwise/counterclockwise), and orient each individual corner with
like an 8-turn move (total of like 32 turns for 4 corners >.>) such an
unefficient method, but in total you only had to memorize like a total
of 8 things. 4 really if you don't count mirrors.



--- In [email protected], "timbreynolds"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think that's backwards.  Switch "orientation" and "permutation" 
> and you're good.
> Of course, the 4-look LL would be a good starting place, then 3-
> look, then 2-look.  Don't jump right into 3 or 2 look; it'll be 
> confusing and awful while you're learning it.
> --- In [email protected], "Daniel Jih" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Haha I myself think the 2 Look is too strenuous for memorization 
> at my
> > level at least. If you want, try the 3 look LL. Basically there 
> are 2
> > moves to permute the edges (well there's actually a 3rd case but 
> you
> > can combine the 2 moves to solve that case), another 7 for corner
> > permutations (these are 7 from the 57 when the cross is solved) and
> > then the 21 orientations. This in my opinion is the best method to
> > start. It's less memorization, and spend some time to really get it
> > down. After you have it down, you basically already have half of 
> the 2
> > look down cold. It's a good transition method you could say.
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "Daniel Beyer"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have the Fridrich Method printed out to study.  I too just 
> finished
> > > the F2L method.
> > > 
> > > I went to Cubeloop.com
> > > I found other methods that seem let strenuous for memorization.
> > > 
> > > I am either going to learn Fridrich 2 Look or 
> > > 
> > > 1.  Permute/Orient Corners
> > > 2.  Permute/Orient Edges
> > > 
> > > Which do you all suggest?
> > >
> >
>






 
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