I think the comparison between standard and cube marathon is not correct. If you run 20 or 42 km, you do it in daytime when you brain is fresh (if it is relevant). If you cube 12 h, your brain is (more or less) fresh (which Is relevent). But what will happen after 16-17 h? You will never get to know, if you so repeat your 12-hour training a 100 times. I think One method to get an answer could be the following: Live and act as usually during daytime. After 15-16 hours you get tired and will go to bed. Don´t! Start cubing and go on for some 8 hours. Now you´ll get an approximate answer on how you would react in the end of a cube marathon. R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terje Kristensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:57 PM Subject: SV: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
This discussion is getting quite annoying, and i dont get the problems here. A few ppl has put a lot of effort into helping someone attempt a cube record, and that is great. It was a great achievement, and everyone applaud the record, and the helpers, right ? The record was a lot of hard work, both for Brent and for all the ppl helping. Can everyone agree on that one also ? If any of you were to attempt to run a marathon, 42 K, they would probably train a bit and attempt to run atleast 20 K as a preparation for the marathon, right ? So then why is it so hard to grasp the concept that in order to attempt a 24 hours cube marathon, one try to cube for quite a few hours, preferably 12 hours to see if they have the stamina. Of course if would be nice to have a few scramblers, but as i see it, just solving and scrambling the cubes yourself for 12 hours should give you a good idea if you are able to do a genuine record attempt. And I have always regarded the cube community as a lot of open minded friendly ppl, so I just cant see why this discussion has escalated this way. Regards Terje -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Craig Bouchard Sendt: 21. februar 2006 13:39 Til: [email protected] Emne: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies) You said that you needed 10 people to do this...If I were to do it unofficially then I would need 10 people to do the same duties... Craig --- In [email protected], Tyson Mao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why do you need 10 people? You just need people to scramble cubes for > you. They can count as well. > > Basically, you're not willing to put for the effort to even practice > something once and you want us to organize everything for you? > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 20, 2006, at 6:50 PM, Craig Bouchard wrote: > > > But even in the unofficial setting you need 10 people...You can't do > > all the scrambles yourself, and still have the same effect, and also > > it may be considered that you are cheating and doing the scrambles > > backwards...doing it unofficially and officially are the same, except > > 1 is recognized, and the other isn't... > > > > Craig > > > > --- In [email protected], Tyson Mao <tmao@> > > wrote: > >> > >> I guess the way I feel is that people should be willing to go through > >> the inconvenience of trying the record in an unofficial setting for > >> themselves before bothering an entire cubing team and inconveniencing > >> 10 people. If you aren't willing to put in the effort, why should we > >> help you? > >> > >> Tyson Mao > >> Astrophysics '06 > >> California Institute of Technology > >> > >> On Feb 20, 2006, at 6:00 PM, Craig Bouchard wrote: > >> > >>> I agree 100%, not just anyone should prance around trying this, but I > >>> do disagree that people should have to do it before hand...Of course, > >>> you guys can use your discretion on who you will let do it too...so, > >>> its not all one person saying I want to do this... > >>> > >>> Craig > >>> > >>> --- In [email protected], Tyson Mao <tmao@> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi Stefan, > >>>> > >>>> Yeah, that's basically the idea. I mean... we have to have some > >>>> type > >>>> of standard right? We don't have enough time to give every single > >>>> cube-solve out there a chance at this record. We especially don't > >>>> have > >>>> time to let people "try it" just for fun, if they don't have a good > >>>> shot at doing this. A record attempt like this is not a trivial > >>>> work > >>>> of organization for us and is very disruptive to our lives. > >>>> > >>>> I agree, world records are meant to be broken. But nobody's life > >>>> revolves around cubing, and we need to respect everyone's > >>>> commitments > >>>> to other aspects of their lives. > >>>> > >>>> Tyson Mao > >>>> Astrophysics '06 > >>>> California Institute of Technology > >>>> > >>>> On Feb 20, 2006, at 4:57 PM, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Could it be what Tyson and Shelley actually tried to say is just > > that > >>>>> if you want *them* to host your record attempt then you need to > >>>>> provide some proof it'll be worth their time? > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers! > >>>>> Stefan > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> --- In [email protected], "Craig Bouchard" > >>>>> <logitewty@> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Well, I've sat back and waited to post, and I'll try to sum it all > >>>>> up... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Why not get multiple people to try it at the same time...Like 2 > > or 3 > >>>>>> people, as long as they supply the scramblers (as you say) it will > >>>>>> also add that competitive edge to it. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> And about the doing it Unofficially first...You wouldn't be able > >>>>>> to > >>>>> do > >>>>>> this, because, as you said, it would take the scramblers, the > >>>>> counters > >>>>>> and everything for officially, you just wouldn't get the credit > >>>>>> for > >>>>>> it...I can understand why you would say this, but only to some > >>>>> extent. > >>>>>> Maybe try a few hours, or something along the lines of this...but > >>>>> to > >>>>>> ask someone to do the 24 hours on their own without getting credit > >>>>> for > >>>>>> it. 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