This discussion is getting quite annoying, and i dont get the problems here. A few ppl has put a lot of effort into helping someone attempt a cube record, and that is great. It was a great achievement, and everyone applaud the record, and the helpers, right ? The record was a lot of hard work, both for Brent and for all the ppl helping. Can everyone agree on that one also ? If any of you were to attempt to run a marathon, 42 K, they would probably train a bit and attempt to run atleast 20 K as a preparation for the marathon, right ? So then why is it so hard to grasp the concept that in order to attempt a 24 hours cube marathon, one try to cube for quite a few hours, preferably 12 hours to see if they have the stamina. Of course if would be nice to have a few scramblers, but as i see it, just solving and scrambling the cubes yourself for 12 hours should give you a good idea if you are able to do a genuine record attempt. And I have always regarded the cube community as a lot of open minded friendly ppl, so I just cant see why this discussion has escalated this way. Regards Terje -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Craig Bouchard Sendt: 21. februar 2006 13:39 Til: [email protected] Emne: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
You said that you needed 10 people to do this...If I were to do it unofficially then I would need 10 people to do the same duties... Craig --- In [email protected], Tyson Mao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why do you need 10 people? You just need people to scramble cubes for > you. They can count as well. > > Basically, you're not willing to put for the effort to even practice > something once and you want us to organize everything for you? > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 20, 2006, at 6:50 PM, Craig Bouchard wrote: > > > But even in the unofficial setting you need 10 people...You can't do > > all the scrambles yourself, and still have the same effect, and also > > it may be considered that you are cheating and doing the scrambles > > backwards...doing it unofficially and officially are the same, except > > 1 is recognized, and the other isn't... > > > > Craig > > > > --- In [email protected], Tyson Mao <tmao@> > > wrote: > >> > >> I guess the way I feel is that people should be willing to go through > >> the inconvenience of trying the record in an unofficial setting for > >> themselves before bothering an entire cubing team and inconveniencing > >> 10 people. If you aren't willing to put in the effort, why should we > >> help you? > >> > >> Tyson Mao > >> Astrophysics '06 > >> California Institute of Technology > >> > >> On Feb 20, 2006, at 6:00 PM, Craig Bouchard wrote: > >> > >>> I agree 100%, not just anyone should prance around trying this, but I > >>> do disagree that people should have to do it before hand...Of course, > >>> you guys can use your discretion on who you will let do it too...so, > >>> its not all one person saying I want to do this... > >>> > >>> Craig > >>> > >>> --- In [email protected], Tyson Mao <tmao@> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi Stefan, > >>>> > >>>> Yeah, that's basically the idea. I mean... we have to have some > >>>> type > >>>> of standard right? We don't have enough time to give every single > >>>> cube-solve out there a chance at this record. We especially don't > >>>> have > >>>> time to let people "try it" just for fun, if they don't have a good > >>>> shot at doing this. A record attempt like this is not a trivial > >>>> work > >>>> of organization for us and is very disruptive to our lives. > >>>> > >>>> I agree, world records are meant to be broken. But nobody's life > >>>> revolves around cubing, and we need to respect everyone's > >>>> commitments > >>>> to other aspects of their lives. > >>>> > >>>> Tyson Mao > >>>> Astrophysics '06 > >>>> California Institute of Technology > >>>> > >>>> On Feb 20, 2006, at 4:57 PM, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Could it be what Tyson and Shelley actually tried to say is just > > that > >>>>> if you want *them* to host your record attempt then you need to > >>>>> provide some proof it'll be worth their time? > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers! > >>>>> Stefan > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> --- In [email protected], "Craig Bouchard" > >>>>> <logitewty@> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Well, I've sat back and waited to post, and I'll try to sum it all > >>>>> up... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Why not get multiple people to try it at the same time...Like 2 > > or 3 > >>>>>> people, as long as they supply the scramblers (as you say) it will > >>>>>> also add that competitive edge to it. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> And about the doing it Unofficially first...You wouldn't be able > >>>>>> to > >>>>> do > >>>>>> this, because, as you said, it would take the scramblers, the > >>>>> counters > >>>>>> and everything for officially, you just wouldn't get the credit > >>>>>> for > >>>>>> it...I can understand why you would say this, but only to some > >>>>> extent. > >>>>>> Maybe try a few hours, or something along the lines of this...but > >>>>> to > >>>>>> ask someone to do the 24 hours on their own without getting credit > >>>>> for > >>>>>> it. Its a good idea, but unreasonable. As you said this takes a > >>>>> lot > >>>>>> of time to organize/do, so why do it unofficially, and put > >>>>>> yourself > >>>>>> through it twice, and not go for it officially right from the > > getgo, > >>>>>> as Per said... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Craig > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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