Martin

On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:48:42 +0000, Martin Galpin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:


>
> You sound like you're using the kernel space drivers. I have tried them 
> as
> well as the user space, both without any luck. The lights are the same 
> here
> too, both green -- the firmware is never uploaded so the ADSL light never
> flashes like it's suppose to.

I am not sufficiently well educated to determine whether I am using user 
space
or kernel space drivers :).
>
> As for kernel compilation it should only be nesscary if your distribution
> kernel hasn't got the required pppoa/n_hdlc and speedtch modules 
> included. As
> far I know the speedtch driver was included in 2.4.23, so pressuming 
> you're
> running a recent distribution kernel (from Mandrake, or SuSE for 
> instance) it
> should be fine.

I have 2.4.20 via Suse 8.3 but have downloaded the 2.4.23 kernel to 
upgrade it.
As I said in another email, I don't want to compound the issues.  I did 
look at
compiling the new kernel but was a little worried that I wouldn't get it 
right
at all.  Are you saying that if I use 2.4.23 then I shouldn't have to 
worry
about installing any drivers at all?

>
> I wasn't aware you needed BOTH mgmt.o and alcudsl.sys. From my past
> experience, it's an either or situation. For arguments sakes however:
>
> http://download.ethomson.com/download/speedmgmt.tar.gz
>
> is the package which builds mgmt.o.
Thank you for the link. I think Gilles has explained the situation, in a 
previous post,
  re mgmt.o and alcudsl.sys in that they are *or* not *and*.

>
> My question about colour was simple. Two days ago my red Speedtouch 330
> failed. I was told it was a reconised fault and given a new one on 
> warrenty.
> Today it arrived, but it was silver. I plugged it in just as my previous 
> one
> was and logically it should all start up fine -- seeing as they're the 
> same
> product. That wasn't the case and as I am seeing now it's proving 
> impossible
> to load the firmware from any of the free [libre] drivers. It just makes 
> me
> wonder if they maybe have made slightest modification to the silver 
> modems
> causing the drivers not to work. That's just a cloud in the sky though.
>
> This is a problem caused by Alactel -- that is for sure. If they were to
> document their hardware specifications and release the source code for 
> their
> firmware I can assure them they'd get a much great response for their
> products. It's the way forward, they just need to embrace it.
>
Sorry to hear your previous modem broke.
And yes I agree it's rather worrying that the silver one didn't run as a 
replacement
straight off.

I had heard that the Alcatel did work under Linux and am disappointed to 
hear
that you are having problems with it under replacement for a previous 
version that
was working.

I don't know what other modems there are that work under Linux.

Many thanks for the info Martin.  Will post if I get any further with this.

Lesley

> On Wednesday 24 December 2003 04:53 pm, you wrote:
>> Hiya Martin
>>
>> Mine's silver but works ok under XP.  Ironically, due to operateor
>> malfunction,
>> I now don't have XP installed and I decided not to hunt out my XP disks 
>> and
>> merely go full blown Linux to see how I coped.  I'm not convinced the
>> colour has
>> anything to do with it.
>>
>> You'll understand the ironically fairly soon.
>>
>> I have downloaded speedbundle 1.00 and read the README docuementation at
>> the
>> top of the code tree which says do 'make' and then do 'make install'. 
>> Read
>> error messages and plug in modem to connect.
>>
>> So i did 'make' and I read and acted on the error messages, and I did
>> 'make install'
>> which got me to where I was earlier on - expecting to be able to access
>> the interenet
>> via my ADSL account.  I poked around with ifcfg-dsl0 and .wvdialrc
>> with no avail.  Apart from  messing up my dial up connection for a bit
>> which really
>> caused me some worries.
>>
>> I even tried rebooting. Oh and disconnecting and reconnecting the modem,
>> (which resolutely stays green all the time on both ADSL and USB 
>> channels).
>> It did all the flickering as described in the faq when I first connected
>> it under XP.
>>
>> I toodled around the speedbundle tree.  The HOWTO is meant to be in 
>> there
>> somewhere.
>> and that is what I was looking for.  I found it in
>> firmware_loader/doc-linux/
>> If you look in that directory there is an awful lot more info including 
>> a
>> howto
>> in 5 European languages.
>>
>> WHat I was able to gather, from the HOWTO is that the files mgmt.o and
>> alcaudsl.sys
>> are *required* to get the modem going.
>>
>> I haven't yet successfully located the mgmt.o file and would love to 
>> know
>> where it is.
>>
>> The alcaudsl.sys file is a Windows system driver and the only place you
>> can get it
>> is from the Windows software on the Thompson site ....... and you need
>> Windows to unbundle it
>>  from the .exe they send you.
>>
>> Ho hum.
>>
>> Now I could go on various winges about having to have Windows to be able
>> to have ADSL via
>> the Alcatel SpeedTouch 330 on Linux.  But I suppose it's the 
>> manufacturer
>> being inconvenient about
>> Linux and not providing the .sys file accordingly.
>>
>> Either way, I am sure the developers have done the best they are able 
>> to.
>>
>> I am however, quite confused about the documentation.  The top level
>> README is fairly explicit
>> in saying, do make, do make install, plug in the modem and you are away.
>>
>> The HOWTO starts talking about kernel config ; which in my book seems to
>> be a bit more
>> than plugging in the modem.
>>
>> Which is right?
>>
>> So :
>> 1. if anyone knows the location of mgmt.o please would they let me know.
>> 2. Does anyone know if we have to reconfigure and recompile the kernel?
>>
>> Looking forward to hearing from someone
>>
>> Regards of the season :)
>>
>> Lesley
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:23:27 -0800, Martin Galpin 
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> wrote:
>> > I just received a new SpeedTouch 330 on warrenty (and to my supprise
>> > it's silver -- could this be an updated version?). Anyway,
>> > since I received it I've had the exact same problem as you and of yet
>> > have been unable to solve it. Have you had any luck?
>> >
>> > Is yours a silver model, or the regular red? If it's silver, could
>> > Alactel maybe have changed the firmware and forgot to tell us? I'm 
>> just
>> > plucking at straws really.
>> >
>> > I'm just about to hack alittle on the modem_run source, maybe I'll try
>> > the proprietry code in the source -- again, just plucking at straws.
>> >
>> > Let me know if you find anything and I will likewise.
>> >
>> > Martin
>> >
>> > (PS: Demon users shall unite...)
>
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