Wasn't at the meeting, so didn't notice this hadn't been sent yet. Good to get it out this meeting, though:
HIGHLIGHTS 21:00:14 <bdale> [item 1, Opening] Welcome to today's Software in the Public Interest board of directors meeting, which is now called to order. Today's agenda and details of pending resolutions can be found on the web at: http://www.spi-inc.org/secretary/agenda/2009/2009-09-16.html [item 2, Roll Call] 21:00:19 <Hydroxide> Jimmy Kaplowitz 21:00:20 <cdlu> David Graham 21:00:23 <bdale> Bdale Garbee 21:00:29 <Noodles> Hydroxide: No, I don't have it. 21:00:39 <Noodles> Jonathan McDowell 21:00:39 <schultmc> Michael Schultheiss 21:01:10 <linuxpoet> Joshua Drake 21:04:48 <zobel> Martin Zobel-Heleas 21:10:05 <Hydroxide> <Ganneff> Joerg Jaspert [item 3, President's Report] <bdale> Nothing particularly exciting to report this month. Next week I'll be in Portland for LinuxCon and Columbus for the Ohio LinuxFest. [item 4, Treasurer's Report] <schultmc> A routine treasurer's report is in the agenda. I'm again happy to see projects spending funds rather than continuing to hoard them. [item 5, Secretary's report] <bdale> In Martin's absence, I'll note the one item in the agenda.. a lapsed invite. [item 6, Outstanding minutes] <Hydroxide> sorry ... yeah I have been busy preparing a NYLUG presentation for tonight [item 7, Items up for discussion] [item 7.1, SPI resolution 2009-09-16.mcs.1 (Establishing an additional SPI bank account)] <Hydroxide> linuxpoet: banks like to see a resolution authorizing bank account openings voting results for "bank account resolution": Yes: 8 [item 7.2, SPI Resolution 2009-09-08.jrk.1 (Path64 as associated project)] voting results for "Path64 resolution": Yes: 8 [item 7.3, SPI Resolution 2009-09-08.jrk.2 (OSUNIX as associated project)] voting results for "OSUNIX resolution": Yes: 8 [item 7.4, SPI Resolution 2009-09-08.dbg.1 (Contributing membership expiry)] <Noodles> I would want to see a ping-people-after-no-vote or a 2-missed-vote-requirement. I didn't propose an amendment because there seemed to be a feeling amongst the members that they didn't want it voted on this meeting but wanted more of a heads up. <cdlu> I'd like to defer the resolution now that it's out for all to see and discuss :) [item 8, Any other business] <cdlu> brief note, doesn't need to go on the record. OFTC will be approaching SPI about our next election soon. <Ganneff> i have on emore thing, just informational: down in .tw next week, discussion of .tw and spi and whatever they want down there. [item 9, Next board meeting] <bdale> 14 October at 20:00 UTC 21:19:54 <bdale> *GAVEL* TIMED LOG 21:00:12 <bdale> *GAVEL* 21:00:14 <bdale> [item 1, Opening] Welcome to today's Software in the Public Interest board of directors meeting, which is now called to order. 21:00:14 <bdale> Today's agenda and details of pending resolutions can be found on the web at: http://www.spi-inc.org/secretary/agenda/2009/2009-09-16.html 21:00:14 <bdale> [item 2, Roll Call] 21:00:14 <bdale> Board members, please state your name for the record. As we have nine board members, quorum for today's meeting is six. 21:00:16 <bdale> Guests (including board advisors), please /msg your names to zobel if you wish your attendance to be recorded in the minutes of this meeting. 21:00:19 <Hydroxide> Jimmy Kaplowitz 21:00:20 <cdlu> David Graham 21:00:23 <bdale> Bdale Garbee 21:00:29 <Noodles> Hydroxide: No, I don't have it. 21:00:39 <Noodles> Jonathan McDowell 21:00:39 <schultmc> Michael Schultheiss 21:00:45 <Hydroxide> Noodles: in a few seconds you will - it's pretty easy to use if you're willing 21:01:05 <bdale> linuxpoet: ? 21:01:10 <linuxpoet> Joshua Drake 21:01:11 <linuxpoet> sorry 21:01:14 <Noodles> I think it's probably better if I have time to look at it *before* the first meeting I use it in. ;) 21:01:15 <bdale> cool, quorum 21:01:30 <Hydroxide> Noodles: ok :) 21:01:30 <bdale> anyone else we're expecting? I know Martin sent tentative regrets. 21:01:37 <schultmc> luk? 21:01:47 <Hydroxide> luk_: 21:01:58 <bdale> Ganneff: ? 21:02:37 <bdale> given that we have quorum, I'm inclined to proceed, we'll not others if they join us later 21:02:49 <bdale> [item 3, President's Report] 21:02:50 <bdale> Nothing particularly exciting to report this month. 21:02:50 <bdale> Next week I'll be in Portland for LinuxCon and Columbus for the Ohio LinuxFest. 21:03:02 <bdale> [item 4, Treasurer's Report] 21:03:02 <bdale> Michael? 21:03:36 <schultmc> A routine treasurer's report is in the agenda. I'm again happy to see projects spending funds rather than continuing to hoard them. 21:03:45 <bdale> agreed 21:04:03 <bdale> any questions from the board? 21:04:21 <Noodles> Not from me. 21:04:27 <cdlu> not from me 21:04:30 <bdale> [item 5, Secretary's report] 21:04:47 <cdlu> in absentia 21:04:48 <bdale> In Martin's absence, I'll note the one item in the agenda.. a lapsed invite. 21:04:48 <zobel> Martin Zobel-Heleas 21:04:58 <zobel> sorry for being late. 21:05:01 <bdale> zobel: welcome! to the meeting and to your new role! 21:05:10 <bdale> zobel: anything to add to your report? 21:05:15 <zobel> no. 21:05:28 <bdale> ok 21:05:34 <bdale> [item 6, Outstanding minutes] 21:05:34 <bdale> Martin? 21:05:58 <zobel> Hydroxide: did you finish yours? 21:06:17 <bdale> we appear to have one set to vote on, from last month 21:06:43 <bdale> or not? 21:06:44 <zobel> i havend seen any from Hydroxide send to secretary, so we don't have the one from last month 21:06:59 <bdale> ok, I see, it's on the agenda but without a link to the draft ... never mind 21:07:00 <Noodles> Yeah, they haven't been sent that I've seen either so I don't think there's anything to vote on. 21:07:16 <bdale> hopefully we can have those ready by our next meeting 21:07:25 <Hydroxide> sorry ... yeah I have been busy preparing a NYLUG presentation for tonight 21:07:35 <bdale> [item 7, Items up for discussion] 21:07:36 <bdale> [item 7.1, SPI resolution 2009-09-16.mcs.1 (Establishing an additional SPI bank account)] 21:07:36 <bdale> This seems straight-forward to me. Michael? 21:07:38 <Hydroxide> I'll have it by October. 21:07:49 <linuxpoet> Why do we need a resolution for this? 21:08:02 <bdale> linuxpoet: not clear to me either, really 21:08:05 <linuxpoet> This is purely operational and falls directly under treasurer duties (I would think) 21:08:06 <Hydroxide> linuxpoet: banks like to see a resolution authorizing bank account openings 21:08:11 <linuxpoet> Oh 21:08:12 <Hydroxide> linuxpoet: that's purely it 21:08:12 <linuxpoet> o.k. 21:08:12 <bdale> oh, right 21:08:13 <linuxpoet> :) 21:08:22 <Hydroxide> zobel: do you have the vote script? 21:08:22 * cdlu moves the motion 21:08:23 <bdale> ok, fair enough. any dicussion, or can we vote? 21:08:26 <schultmc> linuxpoet: banks tend to require resolutions for corporate accounts 21:08:29 <zobel> Hydroxide: no 21:08:33 <Hydroxide> zobel: will set you up late 21:08:34 <Hydroxide> +r 21:08:49 <bdale> Hydroxide: will you run the votes today, then, please? 21:09:06 <Hydroxide> Voting started, 7 people (zobel,hydroxide,bdale,linuxpoet,schultmc,cdlu,noodles) allowed to vote on bank account resolution. - You may vote yes/no/abstain only, type !vote $yourchoice now. 21:09:10 <Hydroxide> yes 21:09:13 <linuxpoet> !vote yes 21:09:13 <Hydroxide> !vote yes 21:09:14 <schultmc> !vote yes 21:09:14 <bdale> !vote yes 21:09:18 <zobel> !vote yes 21:09:18 <Noodles> !vote yes 21:09:18 <cdlu> !vote yes 21:09:22 <Ganneff> ooooh. totally missed this. :( 21:09:29 <Hydroxide> Ganneff: did you sign in? 21:09:36 <Hydroxide> Ganneff: this is the first vote 21:09:44 <bdale> Ganneff: sign in and vote ... and we won't count you late. ;-) 21:09:45 <Hydroxide> Ganneff: I can note your vote even if I didn't tell the voting script 21:09:52 <Hydroxide> or zobel can 21:09:52 <Hydroxide> :) 21:09:58 <Ganneff> !vote yes 21:10:04 <cdlu> :) 21:10:05 <Hydroxide> <Ganneff> Joerg Jaspert 21:10:10 <Hydroxide> Current voting results for "bank account resolution": Yes: 7, No: 0, Abstain: 0, Missing: 0 () 21:10:13 <Hydroxide> Voting for "bank account resolution" closed. 21:10:17 <bdale> thanks 21:10:19 <Hydroxide> CORRECTION: 8 yes, 0 abstain, 0 missing 21:10:35 <Hydroxide> np 21:10:40 <bdale> [item 7.2, SPI Resolution 2009-09-08.jrk.1 (Path64 as associated project)] 21:10:47 <bdale> as I don't see Christopher here, Jimmy? 21:10:51 <Hydroxide> any questions from people who haven't been reading email? :) 21:11:02 <bdale> this one seems ok to me 21:11:06 <Hydroxide> to me too 21:11:14 <bdale> any discussion? 21:11:30 * Hydroxide ready to vote unless there are questions 21:11:43 <cdlu> it (and the next one) seem to have generated no controversy whatsoever 21:11:46 <Hydroxide> ok 21:11:51 <cdlu> and people have had time to complain, so I think it's fine :) 21:11:51 <bdale> I agree, let's vote on them 21:12:02 <Hydroxide> Voting started, 8 people (zobel,hydroxide,bdale,linuxpoet,schultmc,cdlu,noodles,ganneff) allowed to vote on Path64 resolution. - You may vote yes/no/abstain only, type !vote $yourchoice now. 21:12:07 <Noodles> !vote yes 21:12:08 <Hydroxide> !vote yes 21:12:09 <schultmc> !vote yes 21:12:11 <bdale> !vote yes 21:12:12 <linuxpoet> !vote yes 21:12:15 <cdlu> !vote yes 21:12:16 <Ganneff> !vote yes 21:12:17 <zobel> !vote yes 21:12:23 <Hydroxide> Current voting results for "Path64 resolution": Yes: 8, No: 0, Abstain: 0, Missing: 0 () 21:12:26 <Hydroxide> Voting for "Path64 resolution" closed. 21:12:30 <Hydroxide> unanimously passes. 21:12:38 <bdale> [item 7.3, SPI Resolution 2009-09-08.jrk.2 (OSUNIX as associated project)] 21:12:46 <bdale> any discussion on this one? I'm satisfied by the SFLC response. 21:12:50 <Hydroxide> as am I. 21:13:03 <Noodles> Yeah, I read some of the old archives and the letter and I'm happy with SFLC response. 21:13:15 <Hydroxide> ok... ready to vote? 21:13:19 <bdale> I am 21:13:25 <Hydroxide> Voting started, 8 people (zobel,hydroxide,bdale,linuxpoet,schultmc,cdlu,noodles,ganneff) allowed to vote on OSUNIX resolution. - You may vote yes/no/abstain only, type !vote $yourchoice now. 21:13:29 <Hydroxide> !vote yes 21:13:30 <schultmc> !vote yes 21:13:30 <bdale> !vote yes 21:13:31 <Noodles> !vote yes 21:13:33 <linuxpoet> !vote yes 21:13:39 <zobel> !vote yes 21:13:40 <Ganneff> !vote yes 21:13:48 <cdlu> !vote yes 21:13:51 <Hydroxide> Current voting results for "OSUNIX resolution": Yes: 8, No: 0, Abstain: 0, Missing: 0 () 21:13:54 <Hydroxide> unanimously passes 21:13:57 <Hydroxide> Voting for "OSUNIX resolution" closed. 21:14:04 <bdale> [item 7.4, SPI Resolution 2009-09-08.dbg.1 (Contributing membership expiry)] 21:14:04 <bdale> There was a bunch of discussion about this on-channel but I gather no formal amendments were proposed? 21:14:04 <bdale> I generally support this resolution, but personally would prefer a ping-those-who-don't-vote alternative to the current paragraph 5. 21:14:04 <bdale> David, want to add anything? 21:14:23 <Hydroxide> who wants to do the honor of emailing codestr0m (CCing board@ and optionally secretary@) to notify him and request acceptance? 21:14:24 <cdlu> it's generated a lot of discussion but no amendments or counter-proposals 21:14:29 <Noodles> I would want to see a ping-people-after-no-vote or a 2-missed-vote-requirement. 21:14:42 <bdale> Hydroxide: zobel can do that... ;-) 21:14:47 <Hydroxide> bdale: ok :) 21:14:51 <Noodles> I didn't propose an amendment because there seemed to be a feeling amongst the members that they didn't want it voted on this meeting but wanted more of a heads up. 21:14:55 <zobel> will do, but not now. 21:14:55 <bdale> zobel: I'll help if you like 21:15:02 <cdlu> noodles, I'd be good with something like that, although I don't want to add any workload to membership ctte 21:15:02 <bdale> sure, no huge rush 21:15:08 <Hydroxide> zobel: ok. I don't think we're going to have a lapsed invitation this time :) 21:15:09 <cdlu> idea is something that's easy clear and largely automated 21:15:11 <jberkus> bdale, cdlu: amendments were proposeld 21:15:17 <Noodles> cdlu: I think the "auto-ping" thing if it /can/ be automated is best? 21:15:19 <cdlu> jberkus, changes were suggested 21:15:23 <Hydroxide> jberkus: general ideas were proposed - no particular wording 21:15:27 <cdlu> Noodles, likely yes 21:15:29 * bdale is behind on email, as usual 21:15:40 <schultmc> cdlu: if we can fix the membership app, the workload wouldn't be overwhelming 21:15:51 <linuxpoet> That's on me 21:15:58 * Hydroxide moves that we all try to work together and with the members to come up with an amended/alternative resolution to vote on in October, and not vote on cdlu's today 21:16:00 <cdlu> schultmc, ok, well I defer to your judgement on implementation 21:16:02 <linuxpoet> We have a volunteer I just to be honest have been slacking 21:16:10 <cdlu> how would membership ctte like to do this? (answer on list) 21:16:12 - [email protected] has joined #spi 21:16:17 <bdale> cdlu: are you ok with Hydroxide's suggestion? 21:16:19 <cdlu> I'd like to defer the resolution now that it's out for all to see and discuss :) 21:16:27 <schultmc> cdlu: luk or I can follow up on list 21:16:29 <cdlu> ya, that's fine 21:16:32 <bdale> ok 21:16:33 <cdlu> schultmc, great, thanks 21:16:36 <schultmc> or Maulkin if he's still on the ctte 21:16:46 <cdlu> I think Maulkin's busy trying to save the world 21:16:50 <bdale> then we'll defer this to next month. if folks have time to stay on channel and discuss after the meeting closes, that might be productive. 21:16:59 <bdale> [item 8, Any other business] 21:16:59 <bdale> Do any board members have other items for discussion they would like to address briefly? 21:17:13 <zobel> no 21:17:16 <Noodles> We mentioned moving the day for meetings last month. 21:17:26 <Ganneff> ay 21:17:29 <Noodles> I think Ganneff prefered a week earlier? 21:17:35 <Maulkin> Hrm? 21:17:37 <cdlu> brief note, doesn't need to go on the record. OFTC will be approaching SPI about our next election soon. 21:17:40 <Maulkin> What what? 21:17:41 <Ganneff> or later. 21:17:44 <schultmc> Not Monday or Not 1st Wednesday are fine with me 21:17:53 <Noodles> I didn't like last Wednesday of the month. :) 21:17:59 <Noodles> 2nd Wednesday didn't seem to upset anyone? 21:18:02 <Ganneff> right. so one week earlier 21:18:10 <bdale> next month, I'll be in Tokyo on the 21st, so a move to a week earlier would be good for me ... a week later and I'd still be in Japan 21:18:29 <bdale> so we're talking about 14 October at 20:00 UTC? 21:18:30 <Ganneff> i have on emore thing, just informational: down in .tw next week, discussion of .tw and spi and whatever they want down there. 21:18:32 * cdlu is wide open 21:18:32 <Noodles> I'm in California for both the 14th and 21st next month. 21:18:41 <bdale> Ganneff: we'll look forward to a report 21:18:46 <Noodles> Working, so I might have to miss the meeting, but I'll do my best to clear time for it. 21:18:49 * Hydroxide moves to move our default meeting time, starting next month, to 2nd wednesday of the month at 20:00 UTC 21:19:03 <Hydroxide> Noodles: welcome to how all of us in the US cope with the meeting time :) 21:19:05 <bdale> [item 9, Next board meeting] 21:19:21 <bdale> 14 October at 20:00 UTC 21:19:23 <bdale> any objections? 21:19:29 <linuxpoet> not here 21:19:30 <schultmc> fine with me 21:19:32 <Hydroxide> yay 21:19:34 <Hydroxide> do it 21:19:35 <Ganneff> all for it 21:19:36 <cdlu> works for me 21:19:41 <bdale> ok, is done 21:19:42 <zobel> works for me. 21:19:44 <Hydroxide> !vote unanimous 21:19:46 <Ganneff> yay 21:19:54 <bdale> Ok, thank you to everyone present for participating today. 21:19:54 <bdale> *GAVEL* Hope that helps, -- MJ Ray (slef) LMS developer and webmaster at | software www.software.coop http://mjr.towers.org.uk | .... co IMO only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html | .... op _______________________________________________ Spi-general mailing list [email protected] http://lists.spi-inc.org/listinfo/spi-general
