This is written not to criticize, chastise, flame, or belittle anyone who
is a SPORRS contributor, but to reflect some personal observations and
ideas as to why SPORRS was born.

I was one of the original list members (the first time).  The idea of a
list for serious railfan photographers was a good one.  And, the list had a
good beginning.  There were constructive discussions (sometimes biased)
about film, cameras, lenses, techniques.....and the subjects go on.  At
least they were all directly related to railfan photography.  Sure, there
were differences of opinion on a variety of the subjects, but the list was
providing some good information.  Then, for a multitude of reasons, SPORRS
seemed to have died an early death.  Not so: Jim Gilley  did a resurrection
and Dave Cohen's idea lived on.  So far, so good...........

Now comes the meat of my discussion.  Anyone who takes offense at what I
say should contact me directly.  I have thicker skin than most of you
because of age....and, I don't really give a hoot if you disagree!  SPORRS
is drifting for a number of reasons.  The main one is that there are
contributors (and I use the term very loosely) who don't come close to
being serious railroad photographers, yet they become serious mouthpieces.
Another is because SPORRS is being made a discussion group for other facets
of the railfan hobby; like becoming critics for books and videos.  Sure, I
know that Dave Busse wanted to generate interest and conversation when he
posed questions like "what is your favorite book", or "what is your
favorite video"?   OK, books require photos; videos are a whole different
ball game (and I will be the first to admit that there are lots of players;
 producers, sellers and buyers).  SPORRS was not begun as a forum for book
and video reviews........at least,  that isn't the information I was
provided.  The CUNY railroad list just loves this kind of stuff.  

Then SPORRS degenerates to tasteless "humor" submitted by one NP fan to
another list which is then forwarded to SPORRS by a video guy.  Jim Gilley
already addressed this quite nicely.  Next, we have a SPH&TS "wannabe"
director interjecting politics into the discussion in the form of
Republicans wanting to eliminate PBS!!!!  Good God people, what in the
world does any of this have to do with railfan photography?  Finally, an
old sage of 26 (another video guy) wants to know why people take train
pictures?  How about, because we want to!  How about, because it is (or,
used to be) fun. At the wise old age of 26, he surely has critiqued
everyone's work as thoroughly as he has Benson's and Steinheimer's!  OK,
lets step on the feet of the father of the list.  Who really cares about
imaginary cottage cheese.......especially when it takes up bandwidth of
more than one message?  Surely, not I!  And then, when SPORRS starts to
sink, folks ask why?

Lets get back to the reason for the list.  Dave Cohen (father of the list)
exhibited that quite nicely yesterday with his explanation of the
quick-focusing of the Nikon 80-200.  Hey, that is SPORRS!  Lets stick with
hardware issues, techniques, and some computer hardware/software
discussions if they are relevant.  I might be wrong, but I never remember
anything in the original "charter" that included what we do with our images
after we shoot them.......or even why we do it in the first place.  Dammit,
I have muddy old black and white photos taken in the late 1940s because I
wanted to; no other reason.  I sure wish I could have taken them with
products of today's technology.  I know that I am not alone in that thought.

And one final observation......In the beginning of SPORRS, there was a lot
of discussion about lens sharpness, film representation of "true" colors,
grain and resolution, and film processing.  Also, the merits of manual
focus and exposure vs. auto-focus/exposure.  In a discussion of these
critical parameters of capturing an image, how can one even bring up
video?!!!!  In addition to being boring to the point of curing acute
insomnia, how can anybody even compare video to the topics that were so
near and dear to the subscribers just a couple of months ago?  I guess I
must have missed something along the way.  Oh yeah, I have nothing against
anybody's First Amendment rights;  I will be the first to grant a person
his say.  My complaint is that we should choose the appropriate forum for
the subjects of discussion.

There have been a lot of informative discussions on SPORRS.  Corn's and
Busse's tips on aerial photography were good.  If I ever get the chance to
shoot from a helicopter, I'll certainly remember them.  Busse's ideas of
methods of packing equipment for air travel was worthwhile, especially for
those who haven't done it or do it very infrequently.  Different ways to
label slides was interesting as well as storage and slide databases.
Absolutely, there is no question that SPORRS generates topics that are of
interest to most of us.  Why don't we try to keep it along those lines?  Go
ahead, Charlie, launch into techniques.  What we have already seen on the
subject provided some interesting ideas.

Sorry for stepping on toes.  (No, not really....that was a white lie).

John C. Lucas
--> SPORRS: Serious Photographers of Railroad Related Subjects


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