At 12:31 PM 2/17/98 -0500, you wrote:
>JOHN B. CORNS wrote:
>
>  Shoot from higher up and look
>> down to get rid of the overcast sky appearing in the photo.  These tips
>> should help you focus the viewer's attention away from the overcast sky
>> and back on to the subject.  
>
>Robert Palmer wrote:

>This has always worked the best for me as well, although I have had
>occasions where a cloudy sky was a fascinating patchwork of rippled
>layers of clouds with many different patterns of light and dark gray. 
>If you use a film and an exposure that will capture this detail without
>under exposing the train, the results can be very impressive.
>

A way to avoid the underexposing of the train with the light clouds in the
sky is to frame the shot so you can use a graduated neutral density filter
to darken the sky putting the entire frame within the exposure limitations
of the film.  The trick here is to use the filter, or filters, in such a
way that it is virtually impossible to tell that one has been used.

This last part can be very difficult to do, but it is possible.  On more
than one occasion, after returning from a trip an viewing the slides for
the first time, I have had trouble figuring out which shots were taken
using the graduated neutral density pictures.  When this happens, I know I
have succeeded.  When I can tell which shots I used the neutral density
filter, I know I have failed even though the average person may not be able
to tell the difference.

Charlie
Charlie Dischinger


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