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Dave Busse wrote:

> > Which film is the best for crummy weather?
Around here, 'crummy' is a caboose.  We have something called 'crappy'
though...

Sam Reeves wrote:

> Black & White.  Don't bother wasting your slides on crummy days!
But then we have something called 'cranky' too.  Which usually causes us to
make descriptions and statements that are too vague or too general.  

But seriously, I have seen a lot of people go to B&W on less than sunny
days, and sometimes still end up with flat muddy looking images with no
contrast.  

Personally, (when shooting trains), I try not to shoot too much on cloudy
days, but if I have to (get dragged out there with someone else that has
train on the brain), I try to look for angles and shots where I can cut the
sky out (overcast sky just does not work for me in color), or get something
different, like the lower ambient light level letting me do things like
shoot trains on the lower level of bridges, or coming through bridges, or
down off of overpasses or cuts, and this is where a color film with a lot
of punch is good, if you can keep the headlights from going ballistic on
you in the overcast.  Overcast is E-6 weather, it handles colors much truer
and more saturated than Kodachrome, which just goes flat then, which
explains why those people would want to switch to B&W at that point.

Opinion and observation:
I dislike overcast RR shots so much because the majority of them I see are
of the same variety and compositions that you see on sunny days, but they
are just overcast.  This does not usually work in my opinion.  It's time to
look at things differently when the sun is not bright, but this is hard to
do if you are out shooting with someone else who has the standard RR wedgie
imprinted on the brain.  Especially if they gauge their day's RR shooting
success on the quantity of trains that they shot that day.  I try to be
creative at that point, which can be hard to do, because it means that you
will probably have to let some trains go by while you more carefully search
for a different shot than what you may be used to.  This tends to separate
the railfans from the photographers real quick too.  And those documenting
trains from those making notable images.  Riding the middle of the road on
these issues is kind of like being half dead or a little bit pregnant.  It
doesn't work.  Neither does vague or generalized statements in a discussion
forum like this one.

Dave Cohen
Photographer, Member ASMP
Action Photographic Webmaster
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