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> Rick wrote to me that "Houlihans Curve is screwed, unless you want > to get real creative." Per a trip he made this past weekend. If my > memory serves me right Steve S. from Peoria area is now a subscriber to > this list and he might have more to offer on the status of the curve. I > was through the area back in January and was stunned by what seems like > an ever growing fence. If you're out there Steve I'd like your take on > the fence from hell and what the chances might be of getting permission > to shoot from within Hoolihan's Cage. The shot near the road overpass > just east of Edelstein is still nice for west bound trains late in the > day, but it's one of those overshot locations. > > Greg Anderson > St. Louis, MO I guess I should do a little clarification with my thoughts on Houlihan's Curve, per my recent visit. The "normal" place to stand is toast. No more. However, the fence line comes down the hill to a utility pole and clump of brush, where just on the other side, you can still get a similar shot, although not with the same height level. I did not get out of the vehicle as I slowly drove past, but went down to track level, and the access road back to the tracks and looked back to clarify my view. It wouldn't be difficult at all to get to the right angle, but the spot being outside of the fence line, does not get any maintenance, and is severely overgrown. Not being able to ascertain any for sure westbound arrivals, I decided that this was not the approach I was necessarily interested in, standing in groin high grass with a bunch of bloodthirsty chiggers. The creative approach here of course would be to antagonize the guy, and put your tripod in the bed of a pickup truck, and shoot over the fence from the road, as the fence is not particularly high. I am fairly certain that he has no ownership of the roadway, but it might create a stressful situation nonetheless, and that's something I am not very interested in either. Maybe someday down the road though. It is kind of a bummer, as I have been one of the few thoughtful fans out there, and have always asked permission to occupy the property. Although permission was never denied, it was granted very begrudgingly, and not very politely. I guess they took on the attitude of the idiot brethren we have that ruined the whole thing in the first place. Enough for now, Rick ======================================================= -> SPORRS: 'Serious Photographers Of Railroad Related Subjects' -> Web Site: http://www.anet-stl.com/acphotog/sporrs/ -> Message © 1998 SPORRS® - All Rights Reserved =======================================================
