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> > > Greg wrote: > > I've made the trip to Hoolihan Curve- Edelstein about 12 times since > getting interested in train photography and I've never seen anyone do > something stupid. That's not to say somebody hasn't done something > stupid, just that I think it's a very small minority. Most of the dumb > stuff I've seen is the aftermath of highschool aged beer parties and not > railfans. > I think the real problem here is that those people get frustrated > and unsettled by having 1-7 cars parked along side the gravel road. > They live in a rural setting and their sense of privacy has been > threatened. I think the fence is silly and spiteful and a sign that > they've lost perspective. If any of you are looking for a > bed-n-breakfast place this would be the property to buy. > Just to fill in for folks who missed the original incident that led to the fence at Houlihan's Curve, the fence was put up due to the direct actions of rail photographers. A group was at the site and deposited food containers and film boxes on the grass. When approached by the lady who owns the property, who asked that the garbage be picked up, the visitors became verbally abusive. The fence followed a short time later as a direct result of this incident. Over the years I have seen some incredible acts of stupidity when it comes to private property. For some reason, many fans think they have a right to be on private property to take photos. Just a couple of weeks ago I saw a fan (actually one of the east coast's better known "loons") give the owner of an auto repair shop a hard time -- the owner asked the loon to move his car off his property and the loon's response was to tell the owner to be quiet because loon was shooting video. The owners of Houlihan's Curve had been more than tolerant over the years, allowing photographers (sometimes large groups) to set up on their property. If the same number of people congregated on their lawn every weekend and played football, we'd say they had a right to tell the trespassers to move on. The fact that we carry cameras instead of footballs doesn't give us any more right to trespass. "Nuff said. Steve Barry Railfan & Railroad Newton, NJ ======================================================= -> SPORRS: 'Serious Photographers Of Railroad Related Subjects' -> Web Site: http://www.anet-stl.com/acphotog/sporrs/ -> Message © 1998 SPORRS® - All Rights Reserved =======================================================
