Hi all,

I think each vendor will uses its own NMS. So, it can’t be easy to manage 
global SID allocation with multi-vendor environment alongside multi-NMS. 
Therefore, PCE (standard) is better choice.

Regards,
Vahid

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> On Jul 24, 2019, at 10:32 PM, Jeff Tantsura <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> All of the tasks described belong in management plane, while I’m not 
> particularly fond of using DHCP, having single source of truth for 
> configurational state is better than configuring box by box (and excel to 
> manage it :))
> Most SP’s (and as Stephane alluded) already have a centralized management 
> entity that takes care of configuration management and soft resource (such as 
> IP’s, SID’s, RT/RDs, etc allocation.
> 
> Cheers,
> Jeff
> On Jul 24, 2019, 12:38 PM -0400, Andrew G. Malis <[email protected]>, wrote:
>> Sasha,
>> 
>> Most "normal" DHCP servers require manual configuration of some sort if you 
>> want to guarantee persistence of the assigned IP address (i.e. "static" 
>> DHCP). So we're back to "manual" management, even if the results of the 
>> manual management are conveyed by a dynamic protocol.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Andy
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 11:53 AM Alexander Vainshtein 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>> wrote:
>> Robert, Kireeti and all,
>> 
>> I think that both loopbacks and their association with SIDs should be kept 
>> persistent.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Whether such persistency is provided by the means of static configuration, 
>> or by the means that are external to some dynamic protocol is a different 
>> question.
>> 
>> E.g., a “normal” DHCP client (like my office computer) may think that it 
>> obtains a dynamic IP address in the company network from the DHCP server 
>> every time I turn it on, but the DHCP server actually takes care to assign 
>> to it the same IP address every time.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Does this help in any way?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Sasha
>> 
>>  
>> 
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>> 
>> From: spring <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> On 
>> Behalf Of Kireeti Kompella
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 6:36 PM
>> To: Robert Raszuk <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Cc: SPRING WG List <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Subject: Re: [spring] Managing "global" SIDs
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hi Robert,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 11:09 AM Robert Raszuk <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Kireeti,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I would like to challenge a bit your fundamental assumption which is to 
>> state that while loopbacks are very important and locally significant and 
>> warrant manual/nms provisioning SIDs are not. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Actually, what I said at the mike is that I believe that both loopbacks and 
>> global SIDs should be managed by DHCP.  But that's a distraction; the point 
>> at hand is whether global SIDs should be managed "manually" (or by NMS or 
>> equivalent) (i.e., static), or by a protocol (say DHCP) (i.e., dynamic).  
>> You say the former .... thanks for the feedback.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  -- 
>> 
>> Kireeti
>> 
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