+1

I object to the adoption.

Tony


> On Oct 1, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Andrew Alston 
> <Andrew.Alston=40liquidtelecom....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> 
> Just to add to this,
>  
> I am one of the people who clearly stated that I didn’t think a single 
> solution was the right answer here – and I stated my reasoning clearly on 
> this list.  I still believe that – however – I recognize that the foundation 
> of the IETF is found in the bottom up consensus approach – and when the 
> working group has demonstrated such clear consensus – to defy that – is to 
> defy what makes the IETF the IETF.
>  
> So – While I still believe in multiple solutions – irrespective of that – I 
> find this call appalling – because as much as I believe in multiple solutions 
> – the working group consensus should be sacrosanct.
>  
> Andrew
>  
>  
> From: Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com 
> <mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>>
> Date: Friday, 1 October 2021 at 23:21
> To: James Guichard <james.n.guich...@futurewei.com 
> <mailto:james.n.guich...@futurewei.com>>, SPRING WG <spring@ietf.org 
> <mailto:spring@ietf.org>>
> Cc: spring-cha...@ietf.org <mailto:spring-cha...@ietf.org> 
> <spring-cha...@ietf.org <mailto:spring-cha...@ietf.org>>
> Subject: Re: WG Adoption call for 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-filsfilscheng-spring-srv6-srh-compression/
>  
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-filsfilscheng-spring-srv6-srh-compression/>
> Sorry – but – I’m a little confused here.
>  
> Because the way I look at this – the working group clearly stated that they 
> wished for a single behavior – and this – does not deliver that – it is two 
> separate behaviors.  As such – I see this call for adoption – irrespective of 
> the merits or lack thereof of the draft, as a clear defiance of the stated 
> will of the working group.
>  
> This is simply does not fit into the definition of bottom up approach in my 
> opinion – and if this is the way that the chairs wish to proceed – then the 
> only way to do that and still fit within the bottom up approach is to first 
> ask this working group for its consensus to deviate from the single behacvior 
> approach that the working group agreed to.
>  
> As such – I must  strongly and unequivocally object to this call for adoption
>  
> Andrew
>  
> From: spring <spring-boun...@ietf.org> on behalf of James Guichard 
> <james.n.guich...@futurewei.com>
> Date: Friday, 1 October 2021 at 17:05
> To: SPRING WG <spring@ietf.org>
> Cc: spring-cha...@ietf.org <spring-cha...@ietf.org>
> Subject: [spring] WG Adoption call for 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-filsfilscheng-spring-srv6-srh-compression/
> 
> Dear WG:
>  
> The chairs would like to express their appreciation for all the responses 
> received to our emails with reference to how the working group wishes to move 
> forward with respect to a solution for SRv6 compression.
>  
> The apparent inclination of the working group is to use 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-filsfilscheng-spring-srv6-srh-compression/
>  
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-filsfilscheng-spring-srv6-srh-compression/>
>  as the basis for its compression standardization work. That is part of what 
> this email attempts to confirm.
>  
> Because of the above the chairs would like to issue a 2-week WG call for 
> adoption ending October 15th for 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-filsfilscheng-spring-srv6-srh-compression/
>  
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-filsfilscheng-spring-srv6-srh-compression/>
>  but with some clear guidelines as follows. By expressing support for 
> adoption of this document you are fully aware of and are acknowledging that:
>  
> The SPRING working group is adopting a document that has multiple SRv6 
> Endpoint behaviors.
> The document is a “living” document; it may change as it goes through review 
> and analysis by the SPRING working group.
> All open discussion points raised on our mailing list MUST be addressed 
> BEFORE said document is allowed to progress from the working group to 
> publication. A list of these discussion points will be documented in the WG 
> document and maintained by the document editor in conjunction with the chairs.
> If this document is adopted by the working group, the chairs specify as part 
> of the adoption call that the following text describing an open issue be 
> added to the document in the above-described open issues section:
> "Given that the working group has said that it wants to standardize one data 
> plane solution, and given that the document contains multiple SRv6 EndPoint 
> behaviors that some WG members have stated are multiple data plane solutions, 
> the working group will address whether this is valid and coherent with its 
> one data plane solution objective.".
>  
> Please consider the above guidelines as you decide on whether to support or 
> not this WG adoption. Please express clearly your reasoning for 
> support/non-support as well as any open discussion points you would like 
> addressed should the document be adopted into the working group.
>  
> Thanks!
>  
> Jim, Bruno & Joel
>  
>  
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