Agree with the objection. I don't see how this can progress in the current
state and situation and decisions in this WG being made earlier on this.

Thanks,
Melchior

On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 10:55 PM Tony Li <tony...@tony.li> wrote:

>
> +1
>
> I object to the adoption.
>
> Tony
>
>
> On Oct 1, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Andrew Alston <
> Andrew.Alston=40liquidtelecom....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
> Just to add to this,
>
> I am one of the people who clearly stated that I didn’t think a single
> solution was the right answer here – and I stated my reasoning clearly on
> this list.  I still believe that – however – I recognize that the
> foundation of the IETF is found in the bottom up consensus approach – and
> when the working group has demonstrated such clear consensus – to defy that
> – is to defy what makes the IETF the IETF.
>
> So – While I still believe in multiple solutions – irrespective of that –
> I find this call appalling – because as much as I believe in multiple
> solutions – the working group consensus should be sacrosanct.
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> *From: *Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>
> *Date: *Friday, 1 October 2021 at 23:21
> *To: *James Guichard <james.n.guich...@futurewei.com>, SPRING WG <
> spring@ietf.org>
> *Cc: *spring-cha...@ietf.org <spring-cha...@ietf.org>
> *Subject: *Re: WG Adoption call for
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-filsfilscheng-spring-srv6-srh-compression/
> Sorry – but – I’m a little confused here.
>
> Because the way I look at this – the working group clearly stated that
> they wished for a single behavior – and this – does not deliver that – it
> is two separate behaviors.  As such – I see this call for adoption –
> irrespective of the merits or lack thereof of the draft, as a clear
> defiance of the stated will of the working group.
>
> This is simply does not fit into the definition of bottom up approach in
> my opinion – and if this is the way that the chairs wish to proceed – then
> the only way to do that and still fit within the bottom up approach is to
> first ask this working group for its consensus to deviate from the single
> behacvior approach that the working group agreed to.
>
> As such – I must  strongly and unequivocally object to this call for
> adoption
>
> Andrew
>
>
> *From: *spring <spring-boun...@ietf.org> on behalf of James Guichard <
> james.n.guich...@futurewei.com>
> *Date: *Friday, 1 October 2021 at 17:05
> *To: *SPRING WG <spring@ietf.org>
> *Cc: *spring-cha...@ietf.org <spring-cha...@ietf.org>
> *Subject: *[spring] WG Adoption call for
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-filsfilscheng-spring-srv6-srh-compression/
> Dear WG:
>
> The chairs would like to express their appreciation for all the responses
> received to our emails with reference to how the working group wishes to
> move forward with respect to a solution for SRv6 compression.
>
> The apparent inclination of the working group is to use
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-filsfilscheng-spring-srv6-srh-compression/
>  as the basis for its compression standardization work. That is part of
> what this email attempts to confirm.
>
> Because of the above the chairs would like to issue a 2-week WG call for
> adoption ending October 15th for
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-filsfilscheng-spring-srv6-srh-compression/
>  but with some clear guidelines as follows. By expressing support for
> adoption of this document you are fully aware of and are acknowledging that:
>
>
>    1. The SPRING working group is adopting a document that has multiple
>    SRv6 Endpoint behaviors.
>    2. The document is a “living” document; it may change as it goes
>    through review and analysis by the SPRING working group.
>    3. All open discussion points raised on our mailing list MUST be
>    addressed BEFORE said document is allowed to progress from the working
>    group to publication. A list of these discussion points will be documented
>    in the WG document and maintained by the document editor in conjunction
>    with the chairs.
>    4. If this document is adopted by the working group, the chairs
>    specify as part of the adoption call that the following text describing an
>    open issue be added to the document in the above-described open issues
>    section:
>       - "Given that the working group has said that it wants to
>       standardize one data plane solution, and given that the document 
> contains
>       multiple SRv6 EndPoint behaviors that some WG members have stated are
>       multiple data plane solutions, the working group will address whether 
> this
>       is valid and coherent with its one data plane solution objective.".
>
>
> Please consider the above guidelines as you decide on whether to support
> or not this WG adoption. Please express clearly your reasoning for
> support/non-support as well as any open discussion points you would like
> addressed should the document be adopted into the working group.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jim, Bruno & Joel
>
>
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