The whole point of this type of software is to make the design process easier.... If you have to manually re-arrange every single piece of text, node and tag then there is nothing streamline about it. Plus after you move it, if you have to re-size piping, then you have to move them again? This should be simple computer stuff, not to write over itself and space things appropriately.
We've developed some lisp routines we use anyway, which really speeds things up. I'm going to look at this issue and seeing how to fix it. If text is overwritten on any program, it can be relocated I'm sure, and if it's not I guess you could chalk it up to laziness, but if it takes you as long to clean up a drawing as it does to draw it, we might as well go back to pencils. Time is money! Laura McDade Royal Fire Design www.rfpdesign.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:44 PM Subject: RE: Design software I have never used HydraCAD but I have used SprinkCAD for years and it does not have any restrictions that I remember. I think it comes down to laziness and a lack of pride in ones work. Joe Burtell, SET, CFPS Burtell Fire Protection, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.burtellfire.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 1:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Design software How about with HydraCad? Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection Group Mechanical Department CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lg.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Burtell Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 3:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Design software I would say with AutoSPRINK it's the operator. I can move text, nodes, and fabrication tags anywhere. Joe Burtell, SET, CFPS Burtell Fire Protection, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.burtellfire.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 1:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Design software Question for the automated package users..... I have been told by several contracts that they can not manipulate where the program places text, nodes and other type information on the drawings. This has often resulted in some pretty crappy looking drawings and drawings that are hard to review, especially when text is stacked on top of each other to create a blob on the drawings. Now I don't' know if it's really the software or just careless cad operators (notice I'm not using the term "designer" here). Seems that more companies are using less skilled designers and just using cad drafters to produce layouts. Cheaper labor but a poor product if design is the product you sell. Also had the same issue with the automated calcs. The logic of order just didn't exist. Going from a node in the middle of the system to another somewhere else and another somewhere else with no rhyme or reason makes for a miserably tedious review. So the question is, is the problem in the software or the operators? Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection Group Mechanical Department CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lg.com _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
