HydraCAD actually can do a lot of that stuff automatically.

Thanks,
 
Trever Williams
Designer
Unlimited Sprinkler Fire Protection
11130 Petal St.  Suite 800
Dallas, TX  75238
214-349-8444 - Phone
214-349-8450 - Fax

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt
Olson
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:55 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Design software

I have experience with all three of the major sprinkler design packages.
I began my career using SprinkCAD about 12 years ago and it has been the
package I have used a majority of the time. I am therefore partial to it
because I know how to make it do every thing I want. I think the best
part of SprinkCAD is that the calcs and listing are integral to the
drawing. The advantage of this is that the drawing and calculations
always match. If you change the drawing and run the calc all pipe sizes
and lengths in the calc match the drawing. Also all you have to do to
change the calc is change the drawing. This is the same for listing.
When the drawing is ready for approval it is complete and very little
must be done for stocklisting. The one thing with SprinkCAD is you have
to accept how the program labels the pipe for listing because the forced
tags do not work as well as Tyco would like to believe.

While never actively designing with HydraCAD I did supervises a design
department that used it. The biggest problems I had with it was that the
drawing and calcs are separate. While you can export the drawing info to
the calcs no elevation were transferred and all the riser lengths and
elevation info had to be added. Also once you do the export you then
change the calcs to work and all that info must then be transferred to
the drawing. We had many cases where the drawings were rejected because
the calcs did not match the drawing. For stocklisting all the mains and
lines have to be tagged manually and even then you must check every
piece to make sure it was listed and listed correctly. HydraCAD is more
difficult to learn and use than either SprinkCAD or AutoSPRINK. I have
converted HydraCAD users to SprinkCAD with little problem but no one has
been able to teach me HydraCAD.

I used AutoSPRINK for about a year but this was five years ago. I had no
problems learning the program. The drawing, calculations and listing
worked very well but the drawing plotting was not so good. Every thing
had to be plotted to scale so it was hard to get 1" pipe to stand out on
the drawing. The AutoCAD compatibility issue is also a downfall of
AutoSPRINK.

IMHO either SprinkCAD or AutoSPRINK are an upgrade from HydraCAD. They
say you get what you pay for.

Kurt Olson
Design Manager
Atlanta Division
East Coast Fire Protection


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Johnston
Sent: .Wednesday, February 14, 2007 11:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Design software

We are considering making the jump from HydraCAD to Autosprink
It is a big dollar difference and would like some impute from somebody
that
has used both. Not looking for software sales men, but people using it
daily.
Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
If you don't think it should be a forum topic 
my Email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


Thank you for your attention.
Andy Johnston



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