Being able to do nothing about stacked text and nodes in HydraCAD is
completely false. You can move text and nodes at will. There are a few
tricks to doing it properly but nothing difficult at all. The key is to
make sure all your calcs are complete for the entire job before you start
moving the text and nodes around. If you don't, what you previously moved
will be put back into it's original position once the calcs export the data
back to the drawings. Also in order to stocklist in HydraCAD typically not
every line and main needs to be tagged. If you are listing a tree system
for example with grooved fittings and welded outlets for the mains and
threaded branch lines you could list this system with only one pipe tag.
In my opinion the drawings produced by AutoSprink looked terrible.
Different text sizes all over the drawings. When pipes crossed I could
never tell which one was on top without looking at elevation tags.
AutoSprinks calc sheets in my opinion were not very good either. I always
had a heck of a time trying to read them. But I must admit that all the
drawings I've seen and reviewed were done by the same contractor so it
could just be their inability to use the program correctly.
As said before it's all what your used to. I haven't heard anyone mention
FireAcad or OmniCADD. Is anyone still using them?
Matt
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Our fitters hated the Hydracad produced drawings simply because the
design houses that produced them would not take time to make sure their
drawings were legible. They hated the nodes on the dwgs because they
created unnecessary clutter but the design houses we used said they
couldn't do anything about the stacked text or nodes. Needless to say
we never used them again. I always felt if design was the main product
of your company, shouldn't the designer want it to be the best looking
product out there? Apparently it's more about turning a fast buck than
producing anything usable. One place had so many disclaimer notes it
was just ridiculous. Basically they didn't coordinate with any other
discipline, didn't guarantee elevations or routings would work and just
put the whole effort upon the installers. Their drawings were good for
a permit submittal and then for absorbing oil under the truck, not much
else.
We did have one guy who used straight Autocad and Hass, none of our guys
ever complained about his designs, it was obvious that he took some
pride in what went out on the street with his name on it.
It all comes down to what you want people to say about the design you
produce. Yeah, ask the fitters, but be ready to get an earful, they
usually aren't shy about giving their opinions.
Here's an idea. If you're a design house, how about sending out a
questionnaire with each design and ask the installers some pointed
questions about the ease of following your design, accuracy, legibility,
etc. Might get some interesting feedback good, bad or otherwise.
Craig L. Prahl, CET
Fire Protection Group
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
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http://www.lg.com
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