He's probably citing paragraph 11.2.3.1.3 from NFPA 13, 2002

"11.2.3.1.3 An allowance for inside and outside hose shall not be
required where tanks supply sprinklers only." 


Craig L. Prahl, CET
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul
Sincaglia
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 10:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Hose stream exemption


To all-

I am looking for something and not finding it which now has me
questioning code intent.  

I am reviewing an ESFR design for Group A plastics to 17 ft in a
building with a nominal height of 20 ft.  Because the sprinkler
protection for this building is supplied by a dedicated tank and fire
pump arrangement, the designer omitted the inside/outside hose
allowances.

Now, I recognize that doing this is permitted for a number of
configurations.  In fact, this would be permitted for the design I
reference above if the protection were of the "occupancy hazard fire
control" type as stated in NFPA (2002) 12.3.3.1.11.1 

Yet in the ESFR and large drop protection schemes for this commodity
configuration that follow the above referenced section, there is no
mention of a similar exemption clause.  In being silent on the issue, I
can only conclude that NFPA 13 intentionally does not provide such an
exemption and that a hose stream allowance is required regardless of
supply.

My questions to you all is: Am I missing something? 

Thanks

Paul Sincaglia, P.E.



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