Steve:

While not a high-rise situation, back in 1988 when I
worked for another consultant, I designed tri-water
systems for 3 nursing/retirement homes. All are in
Illinois (Morris, Sterling, Metamora), and to my
knowledge are alive and kicking.

Loren Johnson - CFPS, CET
Fire Protection Systems Consultant
Peoria, IL


--- Steve Leyton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Egoistically, I have to admit a twinge of regret
> when I read that.  I'm
> assuming that the reference is to a "Tri-Water"
> design, which came and
> went pretty quickly from about 1984-1988 or so. 
> Basically, it's a combo
> HVAC supply/return and fire sprinkler system that
> utilizes two sprinkler
> mains for the supply/return to the cooling tower and
> then alternating
> supply/return branch lines off of each main that
> allow heat pumps to be
> place between pairs and connected via flex
> connectors with throttling
> valves on both sides.   
> 
> The technology had at least two inherent flaws, one
> is that the
> patent-holder specified a throttling valve that
> wasn't really suited to
> the application - as I recall it was a valve that
> Nibco would have
> otherwise recommended for either full open or closed
> tight service and
> the heat pump flow rates were infinitely variable. 
> The other problem is
> that in order to do a sprinkler T.I. you have to
> shut down the entire
> system, and all other tenants in the same system
> zone (or floor) lose
> their heat/AC while the system's down.  Thus began
> the ritual of
> night-work only on Tri-Water systems.
> 
> I mentioned my regrets; this is because I thought I
> had designed the
> only high-rise Tri-Water system anywhere.  There are
> twin 20-story
> towers here in San Diego that I did in about 1986
> and, until today, I
> was not aware of any others ... does anyone know
> whether or not they're
> still in business?   
> 
> Steve Leyton
> PROTECTION DESIGN & CONSULTING
> 
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> Is this combination Sprinkler/Heating system common?
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