Boy all those little access panels in the ceiling would look real nice.

I don't recall doing a lot of "adjusting or servicing" of grooved
fittings after the ceilings went in.  

Sounds like an architect did that spec.   

I like the list of specialty tools,  we wanted to use an interspatial
neutronic laser to verify our grooves.  But you had to wait for a lunar
eclipse to calibrate it.  If not for that one little issue, it would
have worked perfect.   ;)


Just remember these famous words:   "Beat to fit and paint to match",
makes difficult installations a lot easier.


Craig L. Prahl, CET
Fire Protection Group
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
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Ron
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 4:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Corps of Engineers Grv'd Cplg Spec

"US Corps of Engineers Albuquerque District Specifications for Bureau of
Indian Affairs Kayenta Community School Replacement Navajo County,
Arizona"

Section 13930A.3.4.7 Pipe Joints: After referencing dial calipers,
go/no-go gauges, narrow-land micrometer, NFPA #13 and various other
filler material the make grooving of pipe sound difficult the section
finishes like this.

"Grooved joints shall not be used in concealed locations such as behind
walls or ceilings, unless an access panel is shown on the drawings for
servicing or adjusting the joint."

The RCP's do not show any access panels in the hard lids. I guess we
could show the panels on our drawings but then we would probably have to
provide them.

Thanks for your help.

Ron Fletcher
Aero Automatic
Phoenix, AZ

  

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McMahon
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Corps of Engineers Grv'd Cplg Spec

Ron:

Which Gov. spec are you referring to?
Thom McMahon
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488-2136
Tel: 970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926
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To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 1:17 PM
Subject: Corps of Engineers Grv'd Cplg Spec


Anyone out there had any luck getting relief from a COE spec requiring
an access panel at every grooved coupling located in concealed locations
above hard lids or in walls?

Ron Fletcher
Aero Automatic
Phoenix, AZ
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