Thanks for ruining my day Craig. If Lockwood Greene can't get drawings from A&E folks, us normal guys don't stand a chance.
I too tried the PDF to DWG product but it didn't work well for me either. I have a feeling it is a little more complicated than just "point & click" if you really want it to work well and I don't have the time to learn it right now. Cliff -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Corps of Engineers Grv'd Cplg Spec I tried PDF to Dwg and it was a mess. EVERYTHING becomes a line segment including text. Often actual lines become multi-segmented and editing and cleaning up the drawings becomes a tiresome chore. Last job where the A/E wanted extra money for his drawings I just referenced a pdf converted to JPG. I went into a photo editor and cleaned up the JPG real easy, referenced it into the AutoCAD file and then scaled it as necessary. They would not pay me extra for the cost of cad files and I wasn't going to redraw their whole mess for free. Worst one I had to deal with was a local structural engineer, wanted $700 per drawing. I told him he was absolutely out of his mind. Wanted to tell him a few other things too but I'm just too nice a guy to do that. ;) Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection Group Mechanical Department CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lg.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Mack Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 10:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Corps of Engineers Grv'd Cplg Spec As a "trick" for WalMart, if you can get the files in DWF format, as I have on a few ocassions, you are set. There are several programs available on the web to convert the DWF to DWG format. I have done 3 WalMarts in the last 12 months that we were able to get DWF files. It saves a lot of time getting their backgrounds done. Does anyone know why WalMart refuses to give out their DWG files, other than because they can? Did anyone ever try the PDF to DWG converter that was discussed on here a few months ago? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Williams - work Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:13 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Corps of Engineers Grv'd Cplg Spec The other issue is architects refusing to give cad files because of liability or whatever (can you say Walmart?). I have a clause in my standard contract that covers both. The dollar value I include is somewhere around the value of my mortgage, so that typically makes things disappear. At 09:47 AM 7/31/2007, you wrote: >I'm with you Travis. Out here in California architects have an awful >habit of requiring a fee for a CD-Rom of CAD files. And I can't even >begin to explain the difficulty I had in getting CAD files from Disney >on a project there. Perhaps we can alert the FBI? The sprinkler cops? >It's a crime wave. >PARSLEY CONSULTING >Ken Wagoner, SET >760.745.6181 voice >760.745.0537 fax >[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> e-mail >www.ParsleyConsulting.com <http://www.ParsleyConsulting.com> website > > > >Travis Mack wrote: >>Well, we better get the local police involved. I can't tell you how >>many times we have been robbed. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul >>Pinigis >>Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 6:25 AM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: RE: Corps of Engineers Grv'd Cplg Spec >> >>No, that would be robbery. Emails are free, CDs are usually free, and >>paper is based on the actual printing and delivery costs. >> >>Paul J. Pinigis, P.E. >>Chief Life Safety Engineer >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg >>McGahan >>Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 8:52 AM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: RE: Corps of Engineers Grv'd Cplg Spec >> >>$200 per sheet for email is for paper output? >> >>Living Water Fire Protection, LLC >>1160 McKenzie Road >>Cantonment, FL 32533 >>850-937-1850 >>Fax: 850-937-1852 >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul >>Pinigis >>Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:44 AM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: RE: Corps of Engineers Grv'd Cplg Spec >> >>The client paid for the design, but not the cost of producing multiple >>sets of drawings to be sent out to bidders. The small fee that is >>charged is not for the design, but for the paper output. >> >>Paul J. Pinigis, P.E. >>Chief Life Safety Engineer >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregg >>Key, SET >>Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:39 AM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: RE: Corps of Engineers Grv'd Cplg Spec >> >>You are right Bob, especially when is a Gov. Job. We are suppose to >>have a clause in our contract that states that if we have to pay for >>drawings it will be an extra to the contract. So cost of work goes up. >>Gov has already paid for it once. >> >> >>Gregg >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob >>Knight >>Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 3:20 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: RE: Corps of Engineers Grv'd Cplg Spec >> >>Ron said, >> >>>>>Something is very wrong in the building industry. Very true and >>>>> >>there >>has been for many years. Besides all the little niceties that you >>mentioned, my pet peeve is the architect or engineer who has been paid >>multi-thousands of dollars to provide the owner with plans and specs >>and then turns around and wants the sub to pay him another $50, $150, >>$300, or what ever absurd price to transmit you the drawings. 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