Scot,

Many old timers will tell you that they were taught to get as much accomplished 
with each outlet, welded or mechanical tee, as possible because it was cheaper. 
 This may have changed with the advent of automated welding and hole cutting 
machines.  I haven't checked the numbers in the last decade... or so.

Regarding the steel to plastic transition, of course you can make the 
transition as often as you feel advisable but there are several things you may 
not be considering.

1- The transition pieces themselves are comparatively expensive.
2- I believe that there were some problems with the bonding of the brass 
inserts to the CPVC.  This I believe has been resolved but it may not seem 
worth the risk to your boss anymore.
3- Last but not least important, whenever you put CPVC next to steel you run 
the risk of getting cutting oil on the plastic.  If this happens the plastic 
will eventually fail.  Minimizing this reduces long term risk.

It sounds to me like your boss has a pretty good idea of where he wants to 
spend his money and what his tolerance for risk is.

F. William Koebrich III, SET
SimplexGrinnell LP
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Subject: NFPA 13 residential: weld-o-lets off a main,and plastic-steel 
interfacing

I am not a fitter.
That qualifies some of the ignorance
with the first question.  The second
question I think I know, but
I hope to get some ammo to go to take
to the boss, you know.

My boss is telling me not to put
any weld-o-lets on a main line.  Instead
he wants them all on the branch lines.
I have a 2-1/2 inch "main" running down
a corridor.  He wants the main offset
and all sprinklers for the corridor to come
off of the branchlines into the rooms.
Not all of the corridor sprinklers line up
with the branch lines, so it is a bit more
piping; however it is not excessive.

Just curious as to what anyone might
use for the logic in this.  If there is
logic with not putting sprinklers off of
the main, it will educate me to know it.

Second question...

My boss says if a job has plastic pipe,
then the entire job should use plastic
pipe.  I think that is ridiculous for the
relatively more-expensive sizes over 3
inches where i hear steel comes in
under the plastic costs.   Anyone have
opinions and facts regarding transitioning from
plastic to steel as a valid way to go, when
pipe diameters exceed 3 inches?



scot deal
excelsior fire
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