Hi,

I have read tests carried out around 10 years ago on laminated and heat
treated glass but I don't think they claimed anything like 1 hour.

The difficulties with normal glass is that it breaks due to differential
temperature rather than the absolute temperature. So with standard window
frames it is almost imposssible to fully wet the glass to keep the
temperature distribution even across the pane. Or if the fire is small but
close to the window the flame impingement on the glass can be sufficient to
crack it.   

Regards,

Michael James
Fire Safety Engineer
Pacific Consultants
Auckland
NZ

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Roland, forumites

Has it ever been tested and proven that a single sheet of glass (4 mm, 5 mm,
6 mm, 8 mm or whatever) of size 3 sqm, 4 sqm, 6 sqm, 50 sqm =, on a rigid
frame (aluminium, wood, steel etc) with a sprinkler spray (of whatever
density) has 1-hour fire rating?

All I heard of is one particular type of glass (6 mm?) extremely well
polished on all sides (how realistic in real life!) about 2 ft by 4 ft in
aluminium frame about a foot of the ground etc with spray from both sides
delivering  3 mm/min density ONCE passed a test.

What is the various criteria (apart for some codes giving credit to it) of
fire-rated glass partitions?

Jack C Kilavuz
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We have historically used standard spray sprinklers in order to provide a 1
hr rating with ANY glass partition but technically (at least the last time I
did a search) it's only in the code (Life Safety Code for sure) for glass in
ATRIUMS.  Even then you have the wrinkle of MUST wet the ENTIRE glass
surface.

The WS sprinkler can be used where ever in accordance with its listing AND
provides an equivalency for up to 2 hr rated construction.

Roland

On Oct 31, 2007, at 9:59 AM, Karen Purvis wrote:

> I need to know if there is a code anywhere that states you can or can 
> not use a standard pendant head as a window wash. I have a glass wall 
> that I need to be fire rated and I have a contractor telling me by 
> code he can use a pendant head instead of a deluge head or a Tyco 
> window sprinkler.
> The only
> code I see that possibly address this is 21.20.1.2.1 and it only says 
> you have to use automatic heads. Any help!!!!!
>
> Karen Purvis
> Designer
> Facility Systems Consultants
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