He might be right. Check the spec's I believe they called for a Deluge System on that job. You didnt miss that minor detail at bid time did you ?.
;-) John -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Church Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 11:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Wow - Info In a discussion about zoning or not zoning a hotel by floor in VE, the PM for the GC noted if we DID zone by floor, it would limit the heads on that floor to all going off. I have a little remedial ed work ahead of me. But not as much as Ron- good thing you're an educator. glc -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 11:04 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Wow - Info Don't scoff at the power of myth. I recently had a student from the architectural engineering program tell me residential sprinklers were a bad idea because the service costs tripled the price of a house. He also stated that when the testing was due the owner had to remove all his possessions and could not re-occupy the home until the carpet had been replaced. Figuring annual costs against the average going rate for a standard 2500 sqft home in these parts, the standard hourly rate for IT&M and a 50 year life span it worked out to about 700 man hours per year (or about 4 months) to do this non-required (per NFPA 25) IT&M. This does not include the time or cost of removing the owner's possessions, replacing the carpet (presumably the walls are not damaged by the four months of running sprinklers since it was the drenching of the carpet that required its replacement) and returning those possessions. Being a trained historian prior to engineering I of course wanted to know his references. Were they hearsay, secondary or primary? Was he a witness? He assured me he had many acquaintances and friends for whom this was an annual reality because they had made the mistake of installing sprinklers in their homes. This from a college student studying architecture. I promptly told him I had a ground floor opportunity for him in the ownership of a brand new suspension bridge. Unfortunately he just didn't have the requisite 10% of $850M. Probably was straddled with the cost of maintaining a sprinkler system. On Nov 26, 2007 7:14 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "thousands in yearly service cost", uh, yeah right. > > > > > Craig L. Prahl, CET > Fire Protection Group > Mechanical Department > CH2MHILL > Lockwood Greene > 1500 International Drive > PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 > Direct - 864.599.4102 > Fax - 864.599.8439 > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
