Hello Reza,

From what I gather the Fire Department could unhook your hose reel and hook 
their 1 1/2" hose up and then they would need the 65 PSI.  Design to 64 and put 
a PRV on the inlet of the hose reel where it will be disconnected of the hose 
reel is unhooked.

Monday, February 25, 2008, 5:51:12 AM, you wrote:

> I phoned NFPA & asked the below question from them, they told me in an 
> occupancy where
> you need class II standpipe system, it is not difference if you connect flat 
> hose or
> hard hose reel to 1 1/2 hose connection and as per NFPA-14 residual pressure 
> should be
> 65 psi at the outlet of the hydraulically most remote 11/2 in outlet.
>   As per my per my experience hose reels need lower pressure to work fine in 
> comparison
> with lay flat hoses. I was checking a fire hose reel manufacture data sheets 
> and I
> noticed that a 1 in. hose reel in 45 psi pressure flow is 21 Gpm with throw
> distance of 40 ft. Isn't it enough for a occupant use? Why I am not allowed 
> to design
> based on 45 psi instead of 65 psi in 1 1/2 in outlets while I am using hose 
> reels?
>   Thanks,
>   Reza

> Reza Esmaeili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   As I was searching in NFPA codes, I noticed that there are not that
> much information about hose reels. Can we use 1 in. semi rigid hose on
> hose reels instead of lay flat hoses in occupancies required 1 1/2 hose
> stations? Because using a hose reel is much more easier for occupants, Is
> there any guide when I can use hose reels instead of lay flat hoses?

> What about minimum pressure requirements? As per NFPA-14 residual
> pressure should be 65 psi at the outlet of the hydraulically most remote 1
> 1/2 in. hose station, but as per my experience hose reels need lower
> pressure to work fine in comparison with lay flat hoses. Do I need 65
> psi pressure even if I use hose reels?

> The reason I am asking this question is that in a combined system, as
> my standpipe system needs much more pressure than my sprinkler system,
> if I can reduce my standpipe required pressure using hose reels I can
> save much in selection of smaller fire pump & water tank, but I am not
> sure if I am allowed.
> I was checking a hose reel manufacture data sheets and I noticed that
> a 1 in. hose reel in 45 psi pressure flow is 21 Gpm with throw
> distance of 40 ft. Isn't it enough for a occupant use? am I allowed to design
> based on 45 psi instead of 65 psi in 1 1/2 in outlets while I am using
> hose reels?
> Thanks,
> Reza



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