Ron,
25 ft = 10.825 psi
25 psi = 57.7 feet

Ron

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Ron,

Check your math: 25.0 x 0.433 = 10.825

On Apr 8, 2008, at 8:47 AM, Fletcher, Ron wrote:

> 25 psi equals 57.7 feet of elevation and partially closed valves can 
> account for a reduced static pressure when dealing with city water 
> mains.
>
> Ron Fletcher
> Aero Automatic
> Phoenix, AZ
>
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> Greenman
> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 8:32 AM
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> Subject: Re: Failed Bucket Test
>
> Brian,
>
> Static doesn't change, even with a blockage (recovery time is slower 
> but eventually reaches the pre-recorded pressure--hence the value of a

> main drain test), unless the original test was done during off-peak 
> and your bucket test was done during peak, there is a pump involved 
> that is not coming on or has been removed from service (your bucket 
> test may not have enough demand to fire it up but a hydrant test 
> would--this begs the differences in static), the grid has been changed

> and the source, if gravity, is lower, relative to the site, than 
> before, the level of the tank was lower during your test (25 psi 
> equals a little less than 11
> feet) or the guy that produced the original numbers didn't know what 
> he was doing (I got a report once that showed the residual pressure 
> and velocity pressure to be the same--the water guy wouldn't budge). 
> If you're in a residential area I'd look at the time of day and time 
> of year the test was done as well as the area, read grid, growth since

> the time the test was done. Mid day and mid night are off peak times 
> as is winter in general during peak. The tanks may be low and your 
> test may have been done during or at the end of morning peak or the 
> beginning of evening peak. The original test may have been done during

> summer at midnight when usage was down and the tanks freshly 
> replenished for tomorrow's lawn watering. Lots of possibilities. I 
> think our reliable, automatic water supplies are less than reliable 
> but the alternative seems to be stored water and pumps--extra 
> equipment to fail.
>
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:22 AM, Brian Harris 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>
>
>
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> Ron Greenman
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