The only other place where there is some restriction on piping material
is in 8.3.4.3 where sprinklers with k factor of 4.2 can be installed on
dry systems if the pipe is galvanized.  

So on small orifice sprinklers it's an issue, and on Large Drops.  But
no issue for all other sprinklers?   Hmmmmmmmmm?


Craig L. Prahl, CET   
Fire Protection Group
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George
Church
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 12:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Missing

Didn't, not Don't. 
I didn't look at #13-07.
If indeed the only requirement for galv in your adopted standard
requires galv in large-drop systems, then despite the (obvious)
conflicts Craig is sorting thru, then yes, only large drop systems are
affected in a manner which the TC believes needed a requirement for
galv, others don't. 

So from what I see before me, and I didn't open the referenced standard,
unless you have LDs you don't need galvanized. Naturally it may be less
to use galv than a pump if the dif in C factors helps you across the
line between gravity and boost.... but in meeting the minimum consensus
standard's requirements, go black and don't look back. We use galv
simply because we think it is the right thing to do, and only refrain
upon specific direction from whom we're contracted with- nothing to do
with compliance with minimum consensus standards. Most people don't
hydro at 225-265 PSI either.

Naturally there's that great blurb in the specs that requires meeting
requirements of the Owner's insurance carrier who remains anonymous, so
you have no clue as to what those requirements might be! 

glc

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob
Knight
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 12:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Missing

George,
Don't' look at what?  The text in 13?  2007 is adopted in many areas
including the area that I live in.  So, the bottom line is 13 is the
document of reference, then galvanized is not required with the
exception of large drop systems.  If there is another document
referenced in the bid documentation because of insurance concerns or
other concerns then and only then is the text of 13 trumped.  As far as
being penniless, it seems to me that almost every building owner I have
dealt with is penniless.

Bob Knight

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George
Church
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 9:55 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Missing

Didn't look, Bob- 2007 isn't adopted yet, and we use galv on our dry
systems unless the owner is penniless or aware of the shortened life.
The insurance requirements I refer to are NOT limited to LD's, FM, IRI,
Lumbermans if memory works on Monday, all had requirements for dry
systems to be galv for years. Fittings didn't need to be unless there
were external considerations.

glc



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