If NFPA13 is to be involved you may also have to look at this situation as
the type of "shelving" created by the pipe. To consider the separations
between the pipes it will have to meet the slatted shelf criterion, if it
cannot then the only other classification would need to solid shelf. Believe
me that can really give you a headache unless you use FM Global standards.
They are much more informative. Just a thought.

Russell Rewis
Brown Automatic Sprinklers, Inc.
107C Hemlock Street
Valdosta, Georgia 31601
229-244-8130
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All,

Maybe I am not looking in the right sections, but I have not found 13, 8.5 
and 8.6 to be particularly useful in addressing pipes on pipe racks. 

For example, you have a situation where a pipe rack 5 ft. below sprinklers 
that is 6 ft. wide with pipe diameters up to 8" (including insulation" 
with varying spaces between pipes.   What is the consensus on pipe size 
and spacing of pipes in a rack before it is considered a true obstruction? 
 I realize the conservative approach would be to provide sprinklers under 
the pipe rack, but that is not always feasible.  This seems to be a gray 
area.  What about 2 tier pipe racks?

If sprinklers are installed beneath racks, what is the consensus on heat 
collection methods.  There are differing opinions and studies on this. 
Some say 12" x 12" collectors with downturned edges are good or not good. 
Some say flat 12" squares are better.  Others say no to both or state that 
collectors need to be much larger.

Similar questions relating to cable trays.

What say you guys and gals?

Thanks,

James L.(Jim) Roberts, PE/SET
Fluor Corporation
100 Fluor Daniel Drive - C104F
Greenville, SC 29607
864.281.5149
864.281.4916(Fax)
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