Maybe a little off the wall, but while the dry system and small fire loading may address the FP concerns, would the possibility exist for a stampede should the pyrotechnics go off below a grandstand full of people?
Maybe its good that we in the USA don't see many of the films of soccer stadium fires. glc -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:04 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Explosives Per code he could have a lot more than that in there without requiring sprinklers. For between 2-5 lbs there are some separation requirements in table 415.3.1 but that's it. Less than 2 lb of fire works obviously isn't considered a big deal by the building codes. Outdoor grandstands = Group A-5 Occupancy. The trailer would be a Group M, Mercantile. Combustible construction. However, the trailer itself may be prohibited from being located below the seating area by the following code: IFC 2003: 304.1.3 Space underneath seats. Spaces underneath grandstand and bleacher seats shall be kept free from combustible and flammable materials. Except where enclosed in not less than 1-hour fire-resistance-rated construction in accordance with the International Building Code, spaces underneath grandstand and bleacher seats shall not be occupied or utilized for purposes other than means of egress. So technically, the trailer, regardless of what its purpose is, shouldn't even be there unless it meets the building code definition of 1 hour rated construction which is pretty unlikely. But if the trailer is there and no AHJ objects, and the area below the grandstands is provided with a dry pipe system, that would create suppression for a trailer fire. The dry system is going to be triggered by a fire below the stands obviously, so where's the issue other than the possibility of the dry system not being designed to handle the fuel loading of a trailer fire? There's just no code requirement for sprinklers for the trailer or 2 lbs of 1.4G. Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection Group Mechanical Department CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ch2m.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of douglas hicks Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 6:04 PM To: sprinkler board Subject: Explosives I have a customer who stores a quantity of less than 2 # of Class 1.4G explosives. These explosives are comparable to fireworks. The 1.4G is stored in a metal cabinet, not rated. The storage unit is 8 foot wide x 8 foot high x 12 foot long. The construction is wood frame, plywood floor, wood panel interior, and metal outside. If this sounds like a job trailer, your are right. The trailer is parked under a grandstand. the steel/wood grandstand is protected with a dry system, under the grandstands. Other contents are ordinary combustibles, wood, paper, cardboard. Upon occasion, the trailer is moved to other locations for shows. Then the trailer is parked under the grandstand. unless the trailer is put in the exact same spot, connection to the sprinkler system will be difficult. Can the flex head work for this application? As the 1.4G is in a cabinet, I would feel better with a sprinkler head in the cabinet, with a head or heads protecting the trailer. Any suggestions? Douglas Hicks General Fire Equipment Co of Eastern Oregon, Inc _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
