George,

Very well said.  This is the exact point I stress in my educational efforts
to support residential fire sprinkler requirements.  

>From 2000 to 2007 approximately 11.2 million single family homes were built
in the United States, most without fire sprinklers. Those houses will be
around for decades and the homeowners will either have to forfeit the
protection of fire sprinklers or decide to install them later at a cost of
double or even triple what it would have cost at the time the house was
first built.

Prior to my career in fire protection my wife and I has our first home built
in Arizona.  We were so excited as we went through the options available and
when I saw the option for a fire sprinkler system I skipped right over it.
Instead I went for the more "exciting" options like tile floors and built-in
home theater speakers.

Now having worked in the fire protection industry for a number of years I
know the error in my decision that will affect the safety of future
occupants of that home for decades to come.

Ryan Smith

Residential Fire Sprinklers .com - Your Source for Home Fire Protection
http://www.ResidentialFireSprinklers.com


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Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 6:07 AM
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Subject: RE: Residential Fire Sprinklers

I've debated the difference between offering and requiring AS in SFDs with a
friend of mine who's a home builder. And as a republican, I prefer less
government in general. I thought having home builders OFFER residential
sprinklers would be enough.

Couple Saturdays ago one of our trucks got sideswiped by a lady crossing
over the line, missed being a head-on by inches. She flipped her SUV, both
vehicle's airbags deployed, both vehicles totaled, both drivers wearing seat
belts, and both drivers relatively unhurt. After seeing the vehicles, that
is amazing and thanks go to the seat belts and air bags. 

THAT IS WHEN IT STRUCK ME_ this is why home sprinklers need to be required-
to save us from ourselves. If people had a choice, many would not have
airbags installed. Some folks know someone who died BECAUSE they had a seat
belt on and therefore ignore all empirical data on seat belts due to one
incident. 

The parallel is obvious. Residential sprinklers can save lives- IF they are
installed. And the longer it is optional, the more unsprinklered housing
inventory is in-place- likely forever unsprinklered- tick tick tick tick

glc

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D. (CSFD)
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 8:25 AM
To: AFSA SprinklerFORUM
Subject: Residential Fire Sprinklers

Came across this on another forum...
 
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=20099301&BRD=2754&PAG=461&dept
 
 
At the August 11 Bixby City Council meeting, council voted unanimously
to oppose a recommendation made by the International Codes Council (ICC)
to mandate fire sprinklers in all new residential housing. 



Concerns included the possibility of language used in the mandate which
would prevent changes in the future, dangers that sprinklers can cause,
and the rise in the cost of housing if sprinklers are mandated for every
new residence.
The National Association of Homebuilders (NAHB) Research Center said the
median cost of installing fire sprinklers is approximately $5,574 which
does not include the costs of increased permit, tap and inspection fees
construction costs or maintenance. 
City Manager Micky Webb said the local homebuilders association is
against having sprinklers put into every residential house built and
feel there are other ways to deal with fire safety. Councilor Joe
Williams said sprinklers should not be mandated for residential homes
and duplexes. He moved to oppose the recommendation.
Councilor Tom Daniels said that sprinklers are not foolproof; they can
go off and create a lot of damage. 
Scott Sherrill, present at the council meeting, previously chair of the
Bixby Planning Commission, said that sprinklers are neither cost nor
safety efficient. "Houses are better regulated now," he said. Most
residential fires are caught by smoke and/or heat detectors.
Vice Mayor Dennis Loudermilk said sprinklers are also susceptible to
freezing which can create further problems.
Sherrill added that defective heads in sprinkler systems in homes can
cause extensive damage, giving one example of water having blown a hole
in a wall 14 feet away in an apartment building.
The International Codes Council (ICC) will have its final action
hearings in late September where several building code issues, including
fire sprinklers, will be considered as additions to the 2009
International Residential Code (IRC).
The Home Builders Association of Greater Tulsa, which includes builders
in Bixby, are encouraging others NOT to require sprinklers in all new
housing. 
The Home Builders Association does support fire safety programs for
residential construction which is practical and cost-effective. The U.
S. Center for Disease Control data shows that the fire death
rate-per-million persons from house fires dropped eight percent between
1979 and 2003 although the population was growing at the same time. That
was credited to safer construction materials and codes, good pubic
education and implementation of other fire safety initiatives. 
In 88 percent of fatal fires in single family homes, there was no
working smoke detector. United State Fire Fighters Association
information shows that 57 percent of the reported residential fires
where sprinklers were present were too small to activate the fire
sprinklers. In one study the sprinklers failed to operate 68 percent of
the time.

 

Steven Smith, CFPS | Fire Protection Engineer II 
Colorado Springs Fire Department | Office of the Fire Marshal 
Technical Services | 719-385-7362 

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