No question about it Jay. I am still in debt to Mr. Joe Heinrich who introduced me to this forum. It has been invaluable.
Rod DiBona Rapid Fire -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jay Stough Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Room Design I'll give you the "rest of the story". One of our designers missed the requirement that in 13 you need to sprinkler the closets. He made the mistake that a lot make and missed the "hotels and motels" part of the standard. So everything is piped, the fire marshal approved the plans without the sprinklers, but rejected it (as he should) when it came to final inspection. What we are doing is changing the sprinklers in the closet to 4.2 K and everything works with a 9 psi safety factor. This is the best part of forum. I had not even thought about changing the closet sprinklers until Ken H of Rowe Sprinkler contacted me by email with the suggestion. I funny how when you get crunched, you sometimes miss the obvious solutions. That's the great part of talking and meeting the people on the forum. Jay Stough ________________________________ From: Ed Kramer <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 11:38:10 AM Subject: RE: Room Design Jay, I think you're stuck with including the closet sprinks in your calcs - it would be odd for a residential closet to have self-closing doors. Any idea why the architect wants QR sprinks? Ed Kramer Littleton, CO > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:sprinklerforum- > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Jay Stough > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:20 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Room Design > > We have an architect that wants to use QR sprinklers, not residential in > a facility. It is independent living, not extended care. some rooms > have 3 closets, all less than 24 sq.ft. There are 4 sprinklers > throughout the living and bath area. Including the closets, the total > area may be 600 sq.ft. I am wondering if there is any way not to > include all 3 closet sprinklers in the remote area. I thought I might > not have to looking at 11.2.3.3.5 (2) (2007 edition) since they might > qualify as communicating spaces with protection, but after rereading > don't think so. Any ideas. > > Jay Stough _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
