While your post may be informative in some manner, most of us working stiffs
just don't have time to read a 600 or 700 word post at work. Say it. Keep to
the point. And do it as succinctly as possible.

Thank You

Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
P.O. Box 882136
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel:  970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rodney Hamm
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Concurrent Testing

With regard to alarm system components, I would say it makes the most sense
for the building owner to enter into an agreement with the sprinkler
contractor to conduct the testing of the water flow switches, water flow
pressure switches, air monitoring pressure switches, tamper switches, fire
pump supervisory alarms and any actuation devices associated with
deluge/preaction systems. A separate inspection agreement is warranted to
ensure the fire alarm technicians are testing the audible alarm devices,
visual alarm devices, smoke detectors, heat detectors, pull stations, alarm
panels, alarm panel batteries, emergency lights, exit lights, and any other
related devices (i.e. elevator return, HVAC interlocks, HVAC dampers, alarm
system dialers, etc.). There is a significant amount of responsibility and
many specifically outlined functions which each individual inspector (I mean
sprinkler contractor vs. alarm technician) is required to complete to comply
with NFPA. Flip through 25 & 72 and you will see what I mean.

 

Some building owners are looking for a reasonably priced contractor which
offers both services. They expect the company will send one SUPER INSPECTOR
who is fully capable, certified and knowledgeable in both areas of
expertise. The problem is that these companies are very hard to find and
simply do not exist in many areas of the country, primarily because it is
simply unrealistic to expect one employee to be knowledgeable and proficient
in both areas (sprinkler system related & ALL of the fire alarm related
functions). I am only aware of a few fire protection contractors in the
southeast which even have competent, state certified employees in both areas
of expertise. I am not so sure it is very wise approach since they are
essentially accepting 100% of the potential liability, but they do charge a
lot more money for the services they offer so just maybe it makes sense.
Even these companies typically send two employees or more to cover the
various responsibilities; assuming they are actually completing the
inspection activities in accordance with NFPA. In my experience, the
companies which were originally created as sprinkler contractors are very
weak with regard the NFPA 72 fire alarm system testing activities and the
companies which were originally created as fire alarm contractors are very
weak with regard the NFPA 25 sprinkler system testing activities. On a
similar note: In my personal opinion, most sprinkler contractors who offer
sprinkler system inspections in conjunction with fire extinguisher
inspections are typically weak in one of the two areas (if not both areas of
expertise). Companies who claim they offer certified sprinkler system, fire
pump, fire alarm, emergency/exit light, fire extinguisher, kitchen hood and
fixed gaseous extinguishing system inspections are simply cutting corners;
they might not be aware that their employees are cutting corners, but in
most instances the employees are simply in way of their heads because the
time, effort and knowledge required to complete all of the applicable
inspection/testing activities is extensive.

 

Inspectors for sprinkler contractors should obviously be well versed to
handle the different types of water based fire protection systems at the
facilities they visit. They should also have a certain comfort level and
knowledge base with regard to the fire alarm panel and fire alarm components
connected to the fire alarm system. If they cannot problem solve issues with
the various alarm system components or if they are not prepared for
incidents where the fire alarms do not silence or reset as expected, maybe
they need additional training prior to being sent out to complete
inspections without assistance.    

 

I also do not think NFPA should dictate or regulate who performs the
testing. NFPA should stick to maintaining clear, concise, and consistent
guidelines which outline the required inspection frequencies for the various
system components. For the most part, NFPA 25 & NFPA 72 are fairly
consistent regarding inspection frequencies. Place the responsibility on the
building owner and let them decide how to meet the requirements. In other
words, leave the responsibility to the building owner as it currently stands
and let them decide the best arrangement for their facility. 

 

I will add one additional point...the enforcement of these requirements
should improve. We have a problem in Georgia anyway, I wonder if the problem
is nationwide? I have visited way too many facilities in Georgia and
throughout the Southeastern United States which have expired inspection tags
and there area a significant percentage of locations which have NEVER even
had an inspection completed by a certified sprinkler contractor or a
certified alarm company. The larger commercial facilities (likelihood of a
more severe fire incident in many instances) located in the smaller towns
and/or outside of city limits are more likely to have this problem than the
smaller facilities. Seems like the fire department inspectors do not visit
or do not ask about fire inspections at the larger facilities; based on my
experience, inspections are warranted MUCH more at these facilities than
most of the smaller locations. I am generally against government regulation,
but maybe each state should consider a copy of the current fire inspection
forms to verify inspections have been performed by a certified sprinkler
contractor and a certified fire alarm company prior to issuing the annual
business license or possibly some other annual renewal. If the company does
not provide the required verification, send the fire department inspectors
out for a quick visit to discuss the issue. The fact that it is required to
obtain the annual business license would probably be enough incentive for
most companies.

 

Rodney K. Hamm, P.E.
President/Owner
Falcon Fire Protection
Office  (478) 953-1677

Cell  (478) 396-6988

 

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