For those of you that don't do much Gov. / Military work, The UFC is the
"Unified Facilities Criteria" (UFC 3-600-01) These projects have several
FPE's involved. The Contracting/reviewing entity is often an FPE. The design
entity is required to be an FPE. And the Contractors "Quality Control" is
required to be an FPE.

So it sounds like Scott is the QCFPE for the contractor. This very much
limits his scope to the contract documents and specific referenced
documents. The original RFP and design criteria, are only of interest if the
scope is not clearly defined by the construction documents. The for "Bid"
and "For Construction" Doc's are what he must comply with. If the
construction doc's say 3000SF design area, it is often a battle to try and
get the reduction for QR allowed by 4.1. 

If the spec. clearly say's X+Y=Z then that’s what you see if the contractor
complied with. But is the spec. says "Determine" If X+Z=Y, you only have to
report that info, not act on it.  

Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
P.O. Box 882136
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel:  970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 9:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: review of sprinkler plans ends up with GC requesting the
reviewer to provide additional plan sheet because contractor don´t want to

Guys,

A few things from UFC 600-1 (2004 version but I think this is still the same
in the current version) that Scot may be trying to comply
with:


1-6:    Requirements for FPEs:  Projects involving fire rated
construction, fire      detection, fire suppression, or life safety
systems require an FPE as an integral part of the design team. (FPE’s input
must not be limited to design analysis preparation or post-design review!)

 4-2.3.4.1:     Water Supply Adequacy Calculations:  A Fire Protection
Engineer (as defined in pph 1-6) must provide flow test data and
calculations demonstrating adequacy of water supply for anticipated
sprinkler system. Calculations must be submitted no later than “35% design
submission.” (For design/build projects, the adequacy of the
water supply                    must be established during the RFP
preparation phase.

I can't get the table  into the message so fyi the UFC requires 0.10gpm/3000
sqft for 60 minutes for light hazard. The table is at the below website:

http://www.tpub.com/content/UFGScriteria/3_600_01/3_600_010037im.jpg

And the exception:

Where listed quick-response sprinklers are used throughout the system, the
design area inTable 4-1 may be permitted to be reduced without revising the
density as permitted in NFPA 13except for facilities that are required to
comply with UFC 4-010-01, DoD Minimum AntiterrorismStandards for Buildings
(although this may no longer be the case in the current version).

The problem seems to (without the full document to peruse) squarely rests
with the contract due to the crappy spec.

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