Au contraire.
1m SSF bldg= 1,000,000
900k mezz  =   900,000
That's 1.9m SF, isn't it?
Scroll down and re-read the question.
Sounds like you need to go back to school, I know just the place :)
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ryan Peterson
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 3:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: open grate flooring

It would actually be 1.8m sq.ft. not 1.9m sq.ft. (900,000 * 2 = 1.8 x 10^6)
But what's a 100,000 sq.ft.
Hope that makes it more palatable. ;P

Ryan Peterson

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Church
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 2:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: open grate flooring


Right here :)

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glc

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rod DiBona
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 1:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: open grate flooring

Where do I sign?

Rod DiBona

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George
Church
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:47 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: open grate flooring

Would a payment from a customer in the order of $3m make that go down
easier?

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Keith
Pepin
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: open grate flooring

We are both on the same page. I guess I just can't swallow 1.9m
sprinklers.
Thanks guys.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George
Church
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: open grate flooring

I'm not sure what we're missing or you're missing.
If you have a million SF building with 900,000 SF of open grate mezz
below
it, you've got 1.9m SF of sprinklers.

glc

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Keith
Pepin
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:52 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: open grate flooring

Everything both of you are saying is understandable and applicable, Just
picture this; 2 layer system with 6 foot vertical separation w/ open
floor
grating 75% plus open. Just does seem that was the intent. Perhaps AHJ
should be consulted?

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George
Church
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: open grate flooring

As for skipping, you'd be required to use intermediate level sprinklers,
or
head guards with umbrellas. Prevents cold-soldering from roof
sprinklers.

glc

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thom
McMahon
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:33 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: open grate flooring

If you read the handbook it says pretty much what G said about storage
dust
mats, and as far as the "Cat Walk" goes, I'd say the structural members
that
are supporting the cat walk, Mezz. and landing will also work to
obstruct or
deflect the sprinkler spray.

As far a skipping and over discharge, it would be no worse than if these
were 4+' wide ducts. The committee must think that this is acceptable,
since
they haven't required that these heads be added to the hydraulic design
for
all the years this has been in the standard. Roland? Anyone on committee
to
comment?

Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
P.O. Box 882136
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel:  970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926


The 3rd scenario would require 2 layers of sprinkler near the ceiling
for
half the building footprint. I have concerns what it would do to actual
sprinkler activation, skipping, over discharge...etc

Subject: RE: open grate flooring

If it helps you internalize it, picture some storage atop the catwalk or
mezz as an obstruction to spray; or a floor mat of some sort acting as a
dirt/duct barrier also blocking spray. You don't see em now, but they
appear
later in occupancy phase.

glc


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