An adjustment for lowest tank gradient is not only prudent, sound
"engineering", it may stop the N word (negligence) from coming up at trial.

We ask the water purveyor for the tank level during the flow test and the
lowest level they reasonably anticipate where the tank low point is, and we
adjust the basis of our calculations to that. Naturally a pump fed by this
would have the demand satisfying calc be lowered by tank gradient, and if
you're up near or above 175 PSI churn, your calc on that would be adjusted
UP to the highest tank gradient to reflect reality. Nice double-edged sword
for those of us that "split hairs like nobody I've ever seen", to quote an
independent designer who know longer works for us.

If you're not adjusting for lowest tank gradient on a gravity system, and
are aware the level in water company tanks varies, you might want to start
doing that adjustment so you don't have the "Aha!" experience in front of
the jury. 

glc

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bobby
McCullough
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 3:44 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Safety factor

Another consideration is 13 (2007) 23.2.1.2 which says an adjustment to
the public water supply shall be made for several conditions.  More than
one AHJ in the Atlanta area requires the water test be adjusted and the
system demand a pound or three below the supply (adjusted).

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matthew
J. Willis
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 3:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Safety factor

Not that I have seen. As far as 13 goes, you can design right to the
available supply. The different state and jurisdictions most times have
a
limit in place.

R/
Matt

 
Matthew J. Willis, CET
Automatic Fire Sprinklers
Norred Fire Systems L.L.C.
318-387-1134 Voice
318-387-1163 Facsimile
[email protected]

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karen
Purvis
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 1:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Safety factor

Can anyone tell me, does NFPA 13 or 14 say anything about a particular
safety factor to be used in the hydraulic calculations?

 

Karen Purvis

Senior Designer

Facility Systems Consultants

713 South Central Street,

Suite 101

Knoxville, TN 37902

ph.865-246-0164

fax 865-246-1084

 

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