Sounds like better definition of what he actually has is needed.   Lots of 
variations since ours do not have any transfer trucks inside just one or two 
civilian pickups or cars.  The buildings are small usually about 50ft sq or so. 
 Once you unload the operators are pretty quick to compact and push it out to 
the container truck which is outside and adjacent to the perimeter of the 
building.

There are no HVAC systems in the unloading area, they have a small window unit 
in the small operator's office.  

These are used by county residents, no commercial/industrial use is permitted, 
they must take it to the landfill. 


Craig L. Prahl, CET   
Fire Protection Specialist
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
[email protected]
http://www.ch2m.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Sornsin
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:19 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: Waste Transfer Stations

We were involved in one a few years back that was around 28,000 sq.ft. and was 
classified as an F-1 occupancy (2003 IBC). They dump municipal trash, which is 
pushed onto conveyors that ultimately bring it through a wall to be compacted 
into bales. (Improved efficiency in the loading of the landfill, reduces flying 
garbage, and sets them up for the day that the landfill is full and they need 
to haul to another site.

We required sprinkler protection within the return air ducts due to anticipated 
dust loading; protection throughout the tip floor and dump pit required some 
creativity, because there is no cut-n-dry answer just looking at NFPA 13. A 
large chunk of the garbage is paper and paper-related items such as box-board, 
etc. But there are some plastics inevitably mixed in.  I looked at FM's 
guidelines for baled paper, as well as solid-piled plastics - since neither of 
these fit exactly, I deduced my own scheme.  I believe we ended up with 
0.3/3,000 using 11.2K sprinklers on 100 sq.ft. spacing. This should work well 
also for a fire involving one of the larger vehicles you'd see in the building 
(flat-bed tractor/trailer, garbage trucks, front-end loader-type equipment).

This is one of those jobs where it was nice being on the engineering side of 
the fence, because I don't know how I would have bid it were I in contracting 
at the time. (let's just hope the design works if it's ever needed)

Mark A. Sornsin, PE
Fire Protection Engineer
Ulteig Engineers, Inc.
Fargo, ND
[email protected]

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ryan Peterson
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Waste Transfer Stations

Group
We are currently looking at a waste transfer station. I cannot find any 
requirements for fire protection. Does anyone know if there are requirements 
out there?
Thanks in advance


Ryan Peterson
Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinklers




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